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Guest DJ Location: TORONTO
Registered: 01 July 2005
Posts: 77
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Hey everyone!Noone is here enymore? The Dvj-X1 is the most fantastic invention of the DJ world 21st century and there is no interest eather from club owners, promoters, and you guys.I haven't been here for days and there is no any new posts? SAD! The general american (Tri state) public is behinde 25-30 years and blind and def, but we the video enthusiasts should be productive at least ,don't you think? wake up!
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Pioneer Fanatic Location: Fort Collins, Colorado
Registered: 08 December 2004
Posts: 1164
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Trust me I would love to! They're on my "to buy" list, unfortunately I just can't afford it as of yet
It really wouldn't be that big of deal to get just the players, but then you need the media, & then the displays. A really big investment to just jump into. Someday! ![]() |
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Resident DJ Location: Greenville, SC
Registered: 15 September 2004
Posts: 144
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It takes a pretty good amount of time to prepare video content, so if there are no posts put up here, its because guys like 2nd nature, roonie g, kris p, and myself are busy editing, re-editing and making sure the quality is there. There is definitely an interest all around the globe for DVJ performances, its just a matter of time until the major clubs in any town are incorporating more dj style video content.
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Guest DJ Registered: 17 July 2004
Posts: 65
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I thinks it is dead. The lack of support is killing me and am getting ready to sell off my dvj....since I bought my dvjs i have posted here and called support and still don't have my upgrade software. After investing on dvds for 5 years in the row and these units i'll soon be dumpin' em. I don't know what the big deal is to post the update online as any credible manufacturer does... i think we will see the price going down or popularity vanishing . . . too much hype is never a good thing.. but I like MK3s tho....
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Resident DJ Location: South Africa
Registered: 05 April 2002
Posts: 275
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I share Caleb�s sentiment. I would love to have two of these babies but I�ll have to rob a bank or do a cash in transit heist.
But seriously (in my case) the DVJ-X1 seems like a lot of work. Most the music I play does not have video and I�ll have to create my own visual to accompany the audio. I am no Steven Spielburg or George Lucas, so my visuals would suck big time. I going to stick my neck out and say the DVJ-X1 is not really aimed at the mobile DJ. Don�t get my wrong a mobile DJ with two DVJ-X1�s in his rider, is like the Michael Shumacher of F1 or the Mickie James of WWE woman�s wrestling. Personally the DVJ-X1 is the most amazing invention like what the CDJ1000 did for CD or the SL1200MK2 did for vinyl, it�s doing for a new medium DVD!!! Before the DVJ-X1 not many DJ�s were even thinking of using DVD when DJing except to add visuals to the music from CD or vinyl. The DVJ-X1 are very much at home in upmarket night clubs and TV stations. toni g. |
The DJ formerly known as Steele![]() Location: Calgary, Canada
Registered: 21 October 2003
Posts: 3853
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I think that the investment is the biggest downside. You can get a whole video rig (minus the projector and screen and some accessories) for less than one DVJ. I know, my boss bought one. It's subpar, doesn't do half of what the DVJ can, and doesn't even have instant start. But, it works pretty well.
I think that for your average user, there needs to be something less advanced. Do us mobile jocks NEED video scratching? Not really, no one at our shows cares! But a DVD player that acts JUST like a CD player, now that's something I'd buy. The DVJ is built for innovators and guys that are going to make a living off video shows. They do it and they do it well. But content creation and time involved as well as investment keep it out for most of the mobile jocks. They'd rather have something that "just works" and isn't too fancy since it's also something they have to return an investment on - and let's face it, video shows are still less frequent than standard sound-only gigs. -r- |
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Resident DJ Location: Greenville, SC
Registered: 15 September 2004
Posts: 144
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im sure there is somethings in the works as far as a chopped down version of the dvj. As far as content, promo only has plenty of material that is perfect. I use a lot of it, but i also like to make my own drops and add video or text to scratch samples to keep the visuals going. Keep in mind that these do still play audio cd's and you can bring another dvd (home) player along with you to play anything you want while playing just audio. Personally, i use dvj's plus one cdj 1000 for my shows. Whenever i want to just play audio (or don't have the video to a song), i just pop in an ambient video and roll with it. The whole objective is to keep the party going. Its different when you are doing a ten minute presentation of what the dvj can do vs playing out at a club or event. When you do have a presentation done, you can incorporate it into your set seamlessly and keep on truckin.
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Pioneer Addict Location: Southeast GA USA
Registered: 12 January 2004
Posts: 2309
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I think VJing is just too much of a financial commitment for the average DJ to get into but IMO its only a matter of time until one day we all are playing on DVJX1's or something like them. If I owned a pair the is no way I'd sell them....I'd definetly keep the videos too.
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Resident DJ![]() Location: "The OC"
Registered: 25 July 2004
Posts: 190
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Like Bray said we've been busy. I do DVJ 2 nights a week, every week, either in the OC or on the road. I have been for almost two years. I know the other guys a pretty busy too. DVJ's are the what we have been waiting 15 years for and hands down the best video mixing product on the market. In a world of "can I copy your hard drive" Serato DJing, yes it is a little harder to put video content together, but that what make one DJ stand out from another. Promo Only has pretty much every video on earth and people are just starting to do remixes and other custom content.
As far a $$$ goes, I think the mobile market is the place to make the most from DVJ's. (School Dance, Weddings, Special Events, Etc.) Your return on investment will be the highest, they are the easiest shows to do and the supply is endless. Kris P. DJKRISP.COM P.S. I'll be in San Jose rockin' the DVJ's this weekend if anyone wants to see the dead rise. |
The DJ formerly known as Steele![]() Location: Calgary, Canada
Registered: 21 October 2003
Posts: 3853
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You know what the biggest thing I have is? I can't create custom videos very well. I have no idea how to create my own content - even something as simple as spinning text. I'd love to be able to do it, but I can't even mix down video properly - I see lots of people getting tiny filesizes out of their vids and still having perfect quality (near as I can see, anyway) and yet every time I try I get a file size of 10 gigs for 30 minutes. What gives?
Ok that's a lie, I can do text, but it always looks like rear. I'm not a visual arts kind of person, never have been, my stick figures were always sub-par. -r- |
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Resident DJ Location: Boston, MA
Registered: 05 November 2004
Posts: 136
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Mine were used in video production for Kanye West 2 nights ago..... Did a concert in Boston for him.(Go Red Sox!!!)
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Resident DJ![]() Location: "The OC"
Registered: 25 July 2004
Posts: 190
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Quote: Not every DJ can scratch. Not everyone can remix there own videos. Just can you can't scratch doesn't mean you can't DJ... Kris P. |
The DJ formerly known as Steele![]() Location: Calgary, Canada
Registered: 21 October 2003
Posts: 3853
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Quote: True. My comments above were more of a personal gripe than anything. Just wish I could, is all. I could put the time in, and I probably will some day, but I haven't yet, so I gripe. -r- |
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Resident DJ Location: Boston, MA
Registered: 05 November 2004
Posts: 136
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Quote:Quote: I dont think Pioneer Pro DJ gear was designed for small mobile's to use. I have pictures up here of me in a booth worth more than most mobile companies entirety. |
Resident DJ![]() Location: "The OC"
Registered: 25 July 2004
Posts: 190
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It's all relative. I know guys making $400 for 4 hours and guys making $3000 for 4 hours at weddings. I also own 6 DVJ's, thats more than all clubs in Southern California that I know of....
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Resident DJ Location: Boston, MA
Registered: 05 November 2004
Posts: 136
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Quote: Got me beat. I only have 2. Well, I also have 4 42" plasma's, 8 projectors, and a just of other useless goodies. |
Resident DJ![]() Location: NEW YORK CITY
Registered: 18 September 2005
Posts: 107
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My DAD can beat up your DAD, sorry guys could not resist...
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Resident DJ![]() Location: "The OC"
Registered: 25 July 2004
Posts: 190
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Quote:Quote: Thats dope. The point I was making was that I know more mobile people with dvj's than clubs. I just go back from San Jose though, there is a sick club that has 17 plasma and DVJ's. Much props to Taste Ultra Lounge for know good stuff when they see it. |
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Resident DJ Location: Central Jersey
Registered: 19 August 2005
Posts: 135
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Quote: I some what feel the same way. I remember when I first got them I was very excited, I created my own videos, and tried to get things going on the mobile & club market with little success. I am fortunate to have video gigs every weekend, but we booked these before I had my DVJ's. When I bring them out to an event, it seems that only industry people truly dig the video mixing, scratching, and custom videos, and your everyday clients truly do not view the difference between mixing videos, and just playing them from a home DVD player. In both venues club & mobile, by the time you get the place truly jumpin, people are not really paying attention to the videos, they are more dancing and enjoying the night. To me another huge disappointment is how long it's taken for a company to produce a satisfactory audio/video mixer. The num@^k is not professional quality with only 1 channel and no eq, and the pio switcher does very little to enhance your show. If you�re scratching and moving your fader over quickly, the video flickers so much you can not see the video and it is irritating to your eyes, so I end up just switching the pioneer fader with out the auto starts. These players have been out for over 2 years now (i believe) and we still nothing close to an adequate video mixer. After investing over 12g's in players, videos, additional equipment, computer to edit video, etc... Are the dvj putting that money back that I couldn't make with out them??? Unfortunately no. With 12 g's I could have bought additional plasmas, lighting, marketing tools that I would have already gotten my financial return. Are the dvj's some of the sickest technology I've been blessed to see and own, YES! I am still very undecided on my personal future on DVJ video mixing. P.s. sorry I've been away for a bit, it's wedding season! |
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Pioneer Newbie Location: Winnipeg, MB, Canada
Registered: 02 March 2006
Posts: 9
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I should probably do a little bit of a better introduction for myself on here. I'm with a DJ named Fin-S that isn't mentioned much here yet primarily I'm guessing because of the fact that we're from Canada. I run a small record label/video production studio here and Fin-S is one of the bigger DJs in Canada so we've been working together for about 7 or 8 months on the DVJ part of his show.
It's a grind, there is no doubt about it. First we had to convince a partner of mine that video mixing was "cool" so we bought a cheaper system called Ms. Pinky's and with all of it's bugs it took 3 weeks to make a demo. Then we all agreed it was the next thing so we put the money together and bought the system, the plasma, the projectors, the Promo Only's, the monster cables and all the equipment needed additionally for the studio. 6 months later we were in Vegas and possibly one of the nicest guys on earth, Karl from Pioneer, helped put Fin-S up on stage at the Promo Only showcase. It's been quite the ride but it's hard. Everyone was gonna share the majority of the pre-production but we learnt just like with DJs having the only ear for creating their remixes, he (Fin-S) only had the eyes to create his video remixes. So he got an iMac and is now cutting all of his extended's, remixes, mash-ups and stuff like that. With all the DVJ work and the audio gigs like everyone else has said it's so crazy time consuming. He's barely had a chance to post anything on here himself. Between that we've been doing really well North of the border and have some bookings down south. Here's hoping all the DJs can meet up again someday soon and keep talking about stuff like the challenges of being a DVJ in person because I think it helps provide answers. Between gigging and production this is like putting together a movie right from storyboard to junkets. But I don't agree that people don't appreciate it or get sick of it by the time the party is jumping. I think the key is to look at it like it is a value add to any night. The people on the floor get great tunes mixed by wicked DJs and when something unique like a movie drop happens they get excited. For the rest of the club that's just chilling they have something entertaining them on the screens. DVJing is the future and I for one am friggin happy it's finally here. Fin-S is spinning right now at a residency he has and the people are eating it up. Big shout out's to any DJ that can make this massive undertaking work! Pz, JamCo www.djfin-s.com |
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