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1) The DVJ's don't play HD so what's the point?
2) You can only trigger them if they have a video output and a way of communicating with the fader-start technology. (In other words, no, there is no computer connection for media files.)


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Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Awesome!

Damn price!

Wicked to be able to mix the 4 video sources at once!
Some questions with regards to this an Keying:

1) Will you be able to Key more than one layer?
- say you've got your Logo White on Black....You key out the Black and everything else below comes thru...
- Then you've got a B&W dancing girl....Can you then Key this and then everything below this layer in black comes thru.../
- Then you would have your Music video

Can you key that many items?

2) Next question is how can you control which item will be on the top layer?
- What if you wanted the Dancing girl layer to be on top and your Logo in the middle layer?


3) Video Resizing / Aspect Ratio Changing.
Is it possible to zoom in on your video, or to get it to change the Aspect Ratio of the incoming signal.
To try to eliminate those god awful widescreen vs Fullscreen video mixing that's goes on?

4) Will the video "pop" or have a sync issue when you try to flip your source live on the Video Input selector for each channel?

IE if I have CH1 Fader up with CH1 Video Trim up and I want to do some jump video edits between sources on the same channel...
Will I have Sync issues

5) How is sync handled by the unit. I don't see a Sync input....so is it a Master Sync only? Or does it sync to the incoming video signal on the input ports.....and then can you select via the software which one the VM should clock to?

6) One thing the V4 has that is really, really awesome for video mixing: Transformer buttons. Make that video jump and pop in real time to the music using a button (ends up working like a drum pad)....If not physical then a "soft" touch screen transformer buttons would be great. ****JUST SAW THE TRANS buttons!***

7) Is there a "holy crap I don't know what's up" but just make it go to this Channel Video in Full mode? It seems like a complex mixer and might scare people from attempting stuff.

8) Are those preview windows big enough? What does the external Video Monitor output give you?

9) No MIDI in? Not allowing any external control from anything? How about if you hook up a controller via USB?
Will there be external control allowed? Say your working with a VJ and they could just control the video function via MIDI / OSC. Or Someone is using LIVE / Traktor or Modul8 with it.....Controlling their audio in a seperate environment (laptop / midi controller) and wanting to have the VM video follow.

I love the "Sound and Vision Mixer" caption rather and AV!!!

K-Tel
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Will chew through these and answer soon!


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quote:
Damn price!


Don't worry, if our dollar keeps going up in value... Wink

quote:
1) Will you be able to Key more than one layer?
- say you've got your Logo White on Black....You key out the Black and everything else below comes thru...
- Then you've got a B&W dancing girl....Can you then Key this and then everything below this layer in black comes thru.../
- Then you would have your Music video

Can you key that many items?


It's been a while since I've used it but I think you can only key one source at a time as this is one of the mix effects, but don't quote me on that.


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2) Next question is how can you control which item will be on the top layer?
- What if you wanted the Dancing girl layer to be on top and your Logo in the middle layer?


If it's only two then it depends on which layer has the key.


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3) Video Resizing / Aspect Ratio Changing.
Is it possible to zoom in on your video, or to get it to change the Aspect Ratio of the incoming signal.
To try to eliminate those god awful widescreen vs Fullscreen video mixing that's goes on?


I don't think so but again, don't quote me.

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4) Will the video "pop" or have a sync issue when you try to flip your source live on the Video Input selector for each channel?

IE if I have CH1 Fader up with CH1 Video Trim up and I want to do some jump video edits between sources on the same channel...
Will I have Sync issues


Provided the input for that channel is connected to the sync, it shouldn't, but most people won't be switching the inputs live anyhow. This is another one I haven't personally tested.

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5) How is sync handled by the unit. I don't see a Sync input....so is it a Master Sync only? Or does it sync to the incoming video signal on the input ports.....and then can you select via the software which one the VM should clock to?


Much like the VSW-1, the sync is mastered within the unit and it sends the sync signal to each of the connected players.

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6) One thing the V4 has that is really, really awesome for video mixing: Transformer buttons. Make that video jump and pop in real time to the music using a button (ends up working like a drum pad)....If not physical then a "soft" touch screen transformer buttons would be great. ****JUST SAW THE TRANS buttons!***


Yep, it's got'm on the touchscreen! There's plenty of mix features in there which you can't see in the photos.

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7) Is there a "holy crap I don't know what's up" but just make it go to this Channel Video in Full mode? It seems like a complex mixer and might scare people from attempting stuff.


It's really not that difficult - think of it like an audio mixer. Take one channel up and ONLY that one channel and that's ALL you will see!

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8) Are those preview windows big enough? What does the external Video Monitor output give you?


Yes and no. There are a couple of preview option configurations within the mixer. It's probably not big enough to see your detailed on-screen information but it allows you to see the main content. I believe the external monitor output shows the master output, just as a "booth output" has the main audio for an audio mixer.

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9) No MIDI in? Not allowing any external control from anything? How about if you hook up a controller via USB?
Will there be external control allowed? Say your working with a VJ and they could just control the video function via MIDI / OSC. Or Someone is using LIVE / Traktor or Modul8 with it.....Controlling their audio in a seperate environment (laptop / midi controller) and wanting to have the VM video follow.


No, just output. There will be no external control of this unit (AFAIK), the unit is designed to BE the controller, not be controlled! You can use it much like an 800 or 700 is capable of controlling the audio in your fave MIDI capable app.

If I recall, the USB is used for firmware updates.

I know I didn't accurately answer all of the questions but I haven't had much time on the unit and I'm reading as much as I can from HQ to stay on top of things! More answers will come soon.


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Originally posted by Pioneer_KaraokeKarl:
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Originally posted by djstefan:
Pioneer_KaraokeKarl :

Do you know anything about the Video part in the mixer? If i still need to use the converters between NTSC/PAL with my X1's?



SVM has a switch of "NTSC" or "PAL" in the Hardware Setup.

But you can use ONLY NTSC signal if you select "NTSC". And only PAL if you select "PAL".


CRAP! =( Same thing as the Edirol V4. I really hoped they have fixed that for us X1 users that uses both PAL and NTSC material.

But i guess i'll order this thing anyways :| heh
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WOW !!!
I can't wait to put my hands on this new baby.
Hey VJ Justin Allen, I think that video sampler is the solution for your logos if I am understanding the layout correctly. Or just hook up you old V4 to on channel and you multiple the inputs this way.
Hey Kris_P and Karl, would you let me know when it's sheduled for a demo show here on Toronto?
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Originally posted by DJ_KTEL:

The combination of this mixer, the V4 and as Pulse said the multiple outputs on the players themselves.....All it takes is a little creative routing and you can do anything and not be double mixing.

1) Take the mix from the SVM to Input one on the V4.
Your Logo clean into Input two on the V4.
Blend away.
There is no double Mix.

2) Take the Logo from your device into the SVM
Mix everything in the SVM. No need for the V4

3) Use the built in JPEG reader to add your logo

K-Tel



1) When you do it this way you are double mixing. Your summed output is being sent to another video mixer, with an overlay placed on top of it. And if you are trying to use images during the mix you cannot with this method.

2) I have 3 DVJ's, 2 camera's, laptop images, and another laptop running promo's. That's 7 inputs. SVM cannot handle that many.

3) Does it work with animated logos and movement or just static images. Guessing right now, but static is my guess. Not an option for a video DJ.

4) not mentioned but I thought I would include. I could run the V-4 INTO the SVM, only using one input. Well, I have 2 V-4's so they would be summed...but let's get past that.

The question there would be can the SVM handle A <> B <> C transitions and effects. It would take some creative midi programming to get all 3 images involved in the video mix real time.

Now, once again, it's a cool piece. I was just hoping for a little more for $6,000. BUT I am excited to see it in person and play with it for a little bit.
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FYI

We will have a launch party on Nov.7th Wednesday in NYC at PACHA nightclub for anyone in the area. It will be a free event with performances by BT, Sandra Collins/Vello, and a special guest that will be announced later. There will be units at the club to try.


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that is the dogs bolloxs!!!
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Damn it I just left NYC for good. Hey Karl!Will you have anything like in NYC Pacha anytime soon in Toronto?
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Somehow, I doubt it. The Canadian market is so small that unfortunately they can't justify the cost of doing an event like that because it wouldn't draw nearly the same crowd.


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This is a thing of beauty! I want one!!! Is it to be released in uk too?
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Unbelievable! I'll be forwarding all this info onto several club owners here in Seattle.

I love the beginning of the article below:

"Tissues ready - DJ pr0n again"

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This is so sweet, but I'm just not used to 19" mixers...one reason why I haven't switched from my 909 to an 800 yet.
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This mixer looks amazing.. Im going to have to save my penny's for this one including the dvj 1000's lolSmiler Once again hot stuff Pioneer... Also ill be coming up from the DC/Maryland area for Pacha NYC... Cant wait to play with the SVM-1000. Also to hear BT, Sandra Collins/VelloSmiler.. What time does PACHA start on Wednesday 11/07/07?? Is there a list we should ask to be on at all? Long drive with about 3 friends.. Want to make sure everything is smooth when we get there. We are very excited. PACHA NYC is a fantastic venue. Cant Wait!!!! Once again way to go pioneerSmiler Love your DJ gear!!!
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I want one now.......whos got de hook up?...lol
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Originally posted by DJ_GFunk:
This is so sweet, but I'm just not used to 19" mixers...one reason why I haven't switched from my 909 to an 800 yet.


800 is 12" Wink
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Not sure if there's many Australian's on here, but if you're in Brisbane, this is definately worth a look...



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