im new to the whole DJ scene but am looking at a set of 1000mk3s. however a buddy of mine said more and more clubs are going the video route. Now my question is if i go with a set up like the dvj-1000 and the 800 mixer how do you create the video mixes? cause its really not in my budget to shell out another 5k for the new mixer for dvds. so do the dvj tables come with software to make the video mixes on your computer? im really lost in all this and thought id ask the pros for some help. much apreciated.

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Welcome to Pioneer and teh DJ scene as well!

Here's the deal with video mixing. It's the same word used in many places, sometimes meaning different things. The DVJ's will allow you to mix different videos together. That means mixing one video to another, just like you would mix an audio CD. Here's a demo clip of mine that just shows video mixes (no scratching, which is also possible). Also note that I have the Edirol V4 which allows for transition effects between videos.

www.vjjustinallen.com/vjdemo2.html

Now, there are other VJ's out there (and me as well) who use video editing software to add, delete, or change images and lay them down to create a new video look. DJ KrisP, DJ Rooney G are a few of the bigger names in teh business, but there is also a place where lots of DJ's have placed their own mash-up videos right here on this site. Here's the link to that:

http://forums.pioneerdj.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/2791012904/m/9951038014

So let's try to answer the rest of your questions.

The DVJ's do not come with software to edit videos.

You can buy videos from places like PromoOnly (www.promoonly.com)

And yes, more and more clubs are going to video. Remember when looking at all the options (and there are some out there) The most stable video mixing system out there is Pioneer. And I say this from experience in using these decks for almost 3 years now.

Hope all this helps you. Read the forums here, and have fun!

If you're new to the scene, I might suggest against DVJs. There's an expression about biting off more than you can chew...

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Originally posted by Pulse:
If you're new to the scene, I might suggest against DVJs. There's an expression about biting off more than you can chew...

and i completely agree with you Pulse. however the use of the dvjs ive heard is basically the cdj1000 but with dvd capabilites. so i feel that might as well have the capability if i plan on using it in the future anyway.

and i actually have another question now that i think about it. would it be pointless to have two dvjs? cause theres only one video input per channel on the tv so wouldnt it not work to transistion from one video to another in real time? or is that where the svm1000 mixer comes in?

As much as I'd like to try and talk you out of it, you seem convinced. You're about to lay down a ton of cash for never having DJ'd before and I respect the fact you're doing your research before buying. I did the same thing back in 1995 and I ended up getting the best there was on the market; two CDJ500-II's and a DJM500. Including taxes and shipping I paid $3600 and they threw in a free roadcase. It was expensive but I've never looked back and regretted it (especially considering my younger brother has been using the DJM500 for about 4 years now and it's still working strong).

If you bought a set of CDJ1000's, they're the top of the line for audio and they will certainly have fantastic resale value should you decide you want to take the leap to DVJs at a later time. The layout and function is virtually identical so the transition would be very smooth. They would be a cheaper option to starting and learning the craft. The only downside would be that if you wanted to do video later, you will have been buying music but not videos.

oh dont get me wrong im definetly open to cdj1000s im just looking towards the future i guess you could say. but it seems that the dvjs cant really do what i was hoping they could unless i had the svm and im definetly not willing to drop 10k for a set up. but am i correct in saying that only one dvj can work at a time on a tv? simply because theres only one input on the tv per channel. especially if im using the djm-800. and you definetly seem to know what your talking about. much appreciated.

If money isn't an issue. I would get the dvjs. I recommend this basic setup

2 dvjs 1000s
1 djm-800
1 vsw- video switcher

and you're set. the video switcher will allow you to switch in and out of either video. but let me say this, the learning curve on the dvjs is a lot steeper, primarily because there are less "DJ friendly-32 intro) tracks for you to mix off of. in addition, it'll take up a lot more effort to build up a video collection as well as learn to edit videos on the computer. it can be done, it'll just take you some time.

good luck!

As itek says - a VSW video switcher accepts both DVJ video inputs and sends the output of whichever source you're "switched" to. With the incorporation of faderstart technology, the VSW and any DJM can seamlessly end effortlessly switch the video source for you.

awesome. yeah i did a lot of readong on the video switcher last night. definetly appreciate the help guys. anymore advice or comments are definetly welcome.

I agree w/ Pulse & iTek.

Don't forget to consider the cost for purchasing music videos to mix. Also, you may want to edit some of your videos to remove the 'theatrical breaks' that a lot of them have...a total floor killer.

Oh, as for the mixer, you can get away with the DJM-400 as it too has fader start control and is about $1,000 less.

yeah i was looking at promo only for the videos. and also saw that video SL is coming although its lame how you HAVE to use the RANE mixer to scratch video with the SSL software =(

Not only that but the quality is horrible in comparison.

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Originally posted by Pulse:
Not only that but the quality is horrible in comparison.

yeah of course ive never used it and it seems that EVERYONE who uses pioneer stands behind them 100 percent

You can always find a used pair of dvj for about $3000 and get a Edroil V4 and the new Pioneer mixer 700 I think has midi if not use the 800. Your still under $5000 for your first projector Dell sells a 3000 Lum for $1050. or Ebay and get them used aswell I would go for the dvjs becasue there backward comp on cds. Just my 2 cents