I never used turntable (VINYL) in my life but got a question.

- If your at a gig and you have a back 2 back and the other person is using vinyl and I'm using CDJ's.

** Let's say the beatmatching is not perfect and I"m bringing up the fader and then I have to pitchbed the turntable how do I do it?** =S

This is wisdom from the mouth of a babe, as I've never mixed with vinyl either, but I'd strictly use the pitch fader.

With vinyl, I think your supposed to physically touch the record to speed it up...grab the spindle and turn it faster. Slowing it down you have to finger the bumps on the edge of the platter. Knowing me, I'd screw it up. Stick with the fader.

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Getting used to pitch bending on a record is a difficult trick. It's similar to what you do with a CDJ, you can rotate the outside of the platter one way or the other to speed things up or slow them down.

Other tricks are to grip the spindle a little to slow things down, and to physically push the vinyl along to speed it up.

I agree, get used to bending with the fader if you have a show and no time to practice.

-r-

Whilst I was first tinkering on a much senior DJ's 1200's many years ago, I was immediately scolded for touching the center pin, as well as the outer ring of the platter. I was then scolded for touching the grooves of the record. Serato users don't care about this, but real vinyl users that I know, don't want to do anything to wear, or damage the grooves. And the platter is not to be directly disturbed. That's what the slipmat is for.

Dj Tutor has good tutorials on basics here.

The idea is the record sits on a felt slipmat, which rests on the turntable's platter. This slipmat allows the record to move with the platter as it spins, but allows you the record to rotate either faster or slower than the platter if manipulated by you the dj. It's actually alot of fun to play around with, and it's no secret after messing around with one for a while why turntable users are very loyal to the wheels. It's a very natural feel, once you get used to it. Remember the pioneer cdjs are the best out there because they imitate that natural feeling the best. They are at the end of the day, imitations.

Pitch down temporarily, (to align the beats) by dragging your finger gently on the center portion of the record (no grooves - if it's real vinyl, it's a no no to touch the grooves, at least with the vinyl players I know) Pitch up temporarily, (also to align the beats) by pulling the outer ring of the record (no grooves) to spin it a little faster than the platter is already.

These are beat aligning actions, and temporary pitch actions as releasing your finger causes the record to go back to the original platter speed. The slider is used to permanently adjust pitch and the combination of the two are needed to adjust quickly and exactly.

But everyone should use a turntable at some point in their life.

Apply pressure to the outside-edge of the label. Never touch the centre pin or the platter.

I only use the pitchslider, imho it's the best technique for pitchbending.
Getting used to how the platter works & reacts is good to begin with. But if you'd like your mixes to be perfect time after time you'd better start training on only using the pitchslider.
That way little adjustements are more precise & you won't hear the bend itself as much as with pitchbending via the platter itself.

It'll take some practice, but once you get the hang of it it'll be the best technique for it

Pfft - I always mixed vinyl by tweaking the nipple or stroking the strobes.

Ahem, DJ's who never used vinyl before... what's next? How to pitch on a CDJ cause I use a laptop?

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Pfft - I always mixed vinyl by tweaking the nipple or stroking the strobes.

Are we still talking about DJ stuff here.....

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Originally posted by toni_g.:
Ahem, DJ's who never used vinyl before... what's next? How to pitch on a CDJ cause I use a laptop?

Nice attitude. You must be some kind of SUPERSTAR FAMOUS DJ. I'm asking questions. Yet you trying to jump the bandwagon.

Bon has a good point.

Just because you've never used vinyl doesn't mean you're not a DJ. Vinyl is not a requirement. Good tunes are.

-r-

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Originally posted by RyanJ:
Vinyl is not a requirement. Good tunes are.

Too bloody right! The medium is not the message.

Hezekiah 3 verse 7, 8, and 9
And god said, "That sound which cometh from the speakers, that shall make all the difference from either thine party bangeth, or thine party sucketh. Those that argue this shall burn forever in the fire of denial"

"Corrupt not thine show with dust upon your groove."

"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, than it is to find a turntable dj with a bearable ego."

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Originally posted by PeterMichael:
Whilst I was first tinkering on a much senior DJ's 1200's many years ago, I was immediately scolded for touching the center pin, as well as the outer ring of the platter.

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Originally posted by Cheebatone:
Apply pressure to the outside-edge of the label. Never touch the centre pin or the platter.

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Originally posted by Pulse:
Pfft - I always mixed vinyl by tweaking the nipple or stroking the strobes.

Sorry guys; but like Pulse; I've done the same and still do....

In addition, there is no said "law" on how to manipulate a vinyl turntable. It's an acquired skill (through practice) and it's mostly based on preference of manipulation.

Not touching the grooves is a given because the oil from your finger tips will stain the vinyl and can eventually affect your vinyl.

Otherwise, you do it the way you want to.

Secondly; if you never touched vinyl before, so what?

Never touching vinyl doesn't make you less of a DJ than some of us who still do.

Although I still mostly use vinyl, as well as my old school CDJ-700's, I'll admit that I'm fairly new to the laptop solutions; even though IT remains my daily grind.

But for those who do your thing without vinyl, I don't care.

DJ to DJ, you still get love from me.

The only exceptions are those "wannabees" who hook up their iPods to mixers and then label themselves as professional DJs to do events.

Those are the ones who know absolutely nothing about what it takes in this profession.

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Originally posted by Bon:

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Originally posted by toni_g.:
Ahem, DJ's who never used vinyl before... what's next? How to pitch on a CDJ cause I use a laptop?

Nice attitude. You must be some kind of SUPERSTAR FAMOUS DJ. I'm asking questions. Yet you trying to jump the bandwagon.

No, I am not! A never will be. I must have been djing too long(ten years plus)! But I am glad to see the new kids in my area, who are really serious about DJing, are all heading the vinyl route! They have CDJ's in the setup but play strictly vinyl!

And vinyl is bloody expensive! BTW I have a pair CDJ1000's next to my 1200's!

I was just jerking your chain! All tops DJ's are moving away from vinyl to CD. I have done this many years ago, when I still had my CDJ100's!

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(VINYL)

WTH is vinyl???

It's like leather but not as much fun as PVC.

oh pulse, you dirty whore