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DJ Six,

you are right. every dj should walk around with cardboard boxes to see their music.
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Why not just make a CDJ out of cardboard and timber?! No glare... But then again there is no display...

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IMHO, CDJ needs a nixie display. That would be some L337 h4x0ring.


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George1614:

And every DJ should work outside in direct sunlight all the time all year long for every gig. Why have dark nightclubs?

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I agree with Six. Then we'd all live in Ibiza.

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quote:
Originally posted by DJ SIX:

- How can you know how much time is left on a particular track that's playing? Know your track, how do you think vinyl DJ's do it?


- How can you quickly find about the track number that's playing? You got me there. Smiler

- How can you quickly get the approximate BPM? Who needs to know bpms? I match by using my ear.
- How can you find about the volume level of that new track you're about to bring in to set gain at unity? listen in your headphones.



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oh i found this . not so ghetto looking Smiler



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They stole my idea!


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Hi hellonewman,

First, I want to mention: I posted this topic regarding Pioneer CDJs, so I had only CD DJ'ing in mind at the time I posted. (I would have thought the thread's topic was clear about this though!).

Bringing vinyl DJ'ing into the mix brings interesting questions I had not even thought about considering.

Second, I have never done professional DJ'ing on vinyls -- only CDs; I've barely just watched a few vinyl (non-serato DJ's in action and learned just a few bits here and there about vinyl DJ'ing) so feel free to share tips
and ideas, I'd be glad to learn more on this. I'm always learning anyway Smiler

Here are my opinions on this. 0.02$ more, total 0.04$ so far Smiler.


quote:

- How can you know how much time is left on a particular track that's playing? Know your track, how do you think vinyl DJ's do it?


I am amazed that switching from CD DJ'ing to vinyl DJ'ing would allow a DJ to learn and memorize such precise details about thousands of tracks. Smiler
"Oh yeah this track lasts 6min5secs, this one is 4mins56secs... but wait, where was that groovy track that was 8mins7secs? Smiler"
Nah.
(Seriously, this is a bit hard to believe for me, but I guess one can really learn lots and lots with years, so OK then...)


quote:

- How can you quickly find about the track number that's playing?
You got me there.


I would have thought that DJs who can recall so many details about thousands of tracks would be able to count the number of "tracks" there are on a vinyl disc, using some kind of light or whatever. Smiler


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- How can you quickly get the approximate BPM?
Who needs to know bpms? I match by using my ear.

Guess what, that's what I do too.

However the BPM counter, when it works reasonably, allows me to save 5-10 seconds to get a very rough idea of the approximate speed of a track so I know whether I'll likely be pitch bending up or down. Useful when in a rush. Sometimes it's all about timing and every second counts. Especially when DJ'ing in a genre that I happen to do less often and that I'm less used to (say, R&B as compared to House, where the tempo is quite different; maybe 80-110bpm as compared to 120-135bpm - my take).

I'm not relying on a BPM counter, but since it's there, it's always a bit useful for this. I believe nothing beats the precision of trained ears, as I had mentioned, and this is what I rely for beatmatching.

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- How can you find about the volume level of that new track you're about to bring in to set gain at unity?
listen in your headphones.


Really? That's why these are for! LOL. Smiler

Seriously, I was thinking about precision here, trying to match thing as best as possible, staying as close as possible to 0 dB to aim for Unity.
I don't believe a human ear would beat a good VU meter on a mixer to reach that goal (unless being really gifted or lucky!)


Cheers!

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Hmm... This is getting lengthy and almost off-topic. Maybe we should create a new thread?

I would not have thought that such a simple question would have generated so much feedback Smiler.

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quote:
Originally posted by DJ SIX:
quote:

- How can you know how much time is left on a particular track that's playing? Know your track, how do you think vinyl DJ's do it?


I am amazed that switching from CD DJ'ing to vinyl DJ'ing would allow a DJ to learn and memorize such precise details about thousands of tracks. Smiler
"Oh yeah this track lasts 6min5secs, this one is 4mins56secs... but wait, where was that groovy track that was 8mins7secs? Smiler"
Nah.
(Seriously, this is a bit hard to believe for me, but I guess one can really learn lots and lots with years, so OK then...)

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DJ SIX


Ok, fair enough, although I've been djing for maybe 2years max, and I can pretty much dj without using the displays at all... the occasional peek at the track number and im sussed.

Its not about know how long each track is, its about being able to read music your lustening to, and figure out where the outro's starting, then you bring in your new track. That is pretty easy actually, you should be able to figure it out eventually... I barely look at the remain time, if anything 90% of the time its on time elapsed, cause i like to know where im at occasionally...
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