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FG
Pioneer Newbie
Location: Morgantown, WV
Registered: 18 February 2007
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Hi Pioneer Community
I am looking for an entry level Amplifier to connect my DJM-400, I couldn't find any Pioneeer Branded one, Do you have any recomendations??
Thank You All
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Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Pioneer used to carry one but discontinued it ages ago.

Before anyone suggests what you should buy, perhaps you could fill us in on what you want to use it for. How big are the crowds you're playing for? What kind of room? Do you already have speakers? What are you looking to spend?


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The DJ formerly known as Steele
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Location: Calgary, Canada
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If you do have speaks, what are their ratings?

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Location: Melbourne
Registered: 31 January 2006
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If you've spent money on quality Pio gear, don't compromise with a crappy amp. Crown and QSC (and others) both make good value amps that still sound awesome.
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Location: Boulder, Colorado
Registered: 29 August 2006
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quote:
If you've spent money on quality Pio gear, don't compromise with a crappy amp. Crown and QSC (and others) both make good value amps that still sound awesome.


This is only a little true... Most entry level (crappy) amps sound just fine, they just can't deliver the power, nor will they be as clean at peak levels (much lower since it's a crappy amp not a good one).

If you have not purchased anything yet at all QSC's powered line of speakers is pretty nice. If you're looking to go cheaper, Community has some which can really rock also.
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Location: CLEVELAND, OH--Rock City USA
Registered: 31 July 2007
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I tend to agree with DJfaber, If you spent the bucks on Pioneer gear, spend the money on decent amps and speakers.
That being said most of the DJ's in this forum could bring a house down with Radio Shack gear! Maybe if you want specific help in designing a system give us a budget. I am sure you will get some suggestions based on your cash flow.

You can get decent set of "well known" dual 15's for about 600 and an amp for about 400. I don't think that is very expensive for quality gear. A decent set of powered speakers cost about the same. Save your money or just DJ at clubs until you can get your own equipment. I've been DJ'ing for about 10 years and I was finally able to purchase my dream Pioneer system, a little less than 6 months ago. I played on every piece of crap out there until I got the chance to play on a CDJ/DJM setup. For almost a year I saved every penny I could, quit running up large bar tabs, and cut out my beloved Starbucks. Yes, life was hard and I was unhappy but this journey has made me a better and well equiped DJ.
Out....
FG
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Location: Morgantown, WV
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Thanks for the advice guys. It's been a loooong time since my last visit on this forum. I'm back again

What I need is a good amp which can deliver at least 150W @ 8 ohms per channel. I can afford up to 500$ maybe 600$.

I am also confused about "impedance" as far as I observed, speakers with lower impedance has more power in terms of watts. Can somebody explain this impedance thing to me briefly?

Thank you very much, It's good to be back..
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Location: Chicago
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Like Freeloader mentioned above, both Crown and QSC make pretty good amps. I've used both in the past and both are fine.
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FG - impedance is a measure of the "resistance" (that's in quotes because it's a simplification) that the speaker provides to current passing through it from the amplifier.

The lower the impedance, the easier it is to deliver power to the speaker, but this has a tradeoff - #1 is sound quality; lower impedance means lower sound quality. #2 is the fact that lower impedance is harder on your amplifier. Think of shorting out two leads (say on your AC mains plug) - they get very hot very quickly because there is little resistance (impedance) to the flow of electricity. Sound current is the same way in the amplifier - lower impedance means easier current flow which approaches a shorted lead which = amplifier death (usually in a spectacular, flamethrowing fashion).

You'll notice that a speaker that has a higher impedance generally costs more. This is quite simply because it sounds better; and yes, you do have to put more power into it, but it'll sound much better and "seem" to be louder than a cheaper speaker.

The other thing to look for is speaker sensitivity. This often-ignored/misunderstood number is the other half of speaker power that few people ever look at. The way it works is this: for every 3dB change in this number, the speaker will either be half as loud (-dB) or twice as loud (+dB) with the same amplifier.

Said another way, say you have a speaker with a sensitivity of 89db/1w/1m, and another with a sensitivity of 92dB/1w/1m, both running off an amplifier with 100w of power. The speaker with 92db/1w/1m sensitivity will sound twice as loud. Why? Because it's more "sensitive" to each watt of power that is put into it.

Of course this comes with it's own tradeoff - a more sensitive speaker is more expensive. The good news is though, you'll save money on amplifier power as you won't need nearly as much to get the same volume.

Hope this helps.

-r-
FG
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Location: Morgantown, WV
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thank you very much guys that really helped.
any recommendations for good speakers??
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