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<DJ_Samu>
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Wassup fellow DJs?!!?!

Im new to this DJ game and have thousands of Hip Hop CDs that, of course, have profanity in their lyrics.
In playing in some places where underage kids wanna get their groove on, I was just curious on how to cut out the lyrics on the songs or is their a mixer that can just dub out lyrics itself?
I know I can get radio versions of these songs, but spending so much money on stuff I will only play on occasion and already having the album version of the song, it seems like a waste of money to me buying a clean version of the same song!
So, if any of yall know an answer to this, PLEASE REPLY!!

Respect!

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If you're handy with an audio editor, you can rip the songs on your computer and do some cutting and pasting. Some hip-hop songs basically loop a 1 bar section and if you can find a section without any vocals, you can copy and paste a bit of that on to where the profanity stands. Another technique is to just reverse the obscene lyric in the song or pasting another lyric instead on top of it.

You can also do this on-the-fly with a mixer with transforms of the line switch. To spice it up, you can also do this: just before a lyric comes in, you can set a Pioneer mixer or the EFX-500 to the echo effect @ 1/1. Then hit your line input to cut the sound so only the echo part come through.

As effective as either of these methods are, you have to be careful of playing even clean versions of songs to "underage" kids. The thing is, the kids probably already know the dirty version of the song and might get pissed at you for playing the cleaned up version. They also might start shouting out the dirty lyrics even though your version is clean. This can get you in trouble really fast with, say, a school advisor, even though you're "technically" playing a version that's "clean." It's sometimes a double-edged sword: you play a dirty version and the advisors will get pissed off; you play a cleaned-up version and you piss off the kids. Ideally, with some many other songs to choose from, there's also plenty of music without "objectionable" lyrics.

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Dave

<DJ_CHRIS_EFX>
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hi, i do a ton of events for all young ages, and i often run a dare program teen dance/club event for kids in 5th-8th grade. It's real hard to please the kids and the parents at the same time (i even got cops watching me at thoes dare dances) but my best advice is to keep the beginning of your partys extra clean with lots of pop music or "party" music like "let's get loud" from jennifer lopez, or "we like to party from "the venga boys." Then in the middle you can hit them with the hip hop and rap because at this point most of the parents aren't paying that much attention, but you need to at the same time of playing the music entertain them on the mic and control them from shouting out bad language and stuff like that. Then at this point you shoul have them in the palm of your hands and at the last 20 mins of the dance when parents are arriving to pick there children up, try to drop some oldie party music like the greese mega mix in order to make the parents happy so they wanna hire you again! This has been the formula that works for me and i get requested back at almost all the school/ymca etc gig i do from both the parents and kids. On the other hand if your dealing with high school kids, stay off the mic as much as you can, play the clean edits and try to get the party bumpin so that even if the the teachers didn't really like wat you played, so many kids requested you back that the teachers have to hire u back. And be sure to explain to the teachers that you are only playing the edits on the radio, the music that the kids hear everyday (music like "shake your a s s" by mysitial) but that doesn't always work, like any other event, you have to read the crowd, this includes the teachers as much as the people dancin. Last but not least, for music, if you don't get the urban promo onlys, i use the many other online sources to get and download free clean music!, oh well good luck, tell us how it goes!
<ivo>
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man you have "problems"in the USA!!!
i think it is much more relaxed in europe.
actually we have a song in the swiss charts where the reffrain is "i wott seeeeeeeex vom morge bis am aabe, i wott seeeeeeeeex mit der gabe und der sabe"
means: "i will sex from morning to evening i will sex with gabi and sabrina"
this song is really popular and everyone from 10- 60years sings the reffrain and have fun...
<DJ_Samu>
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quote:
Originally posted by SpinThis!:
If you're handy with an audio editor, you can rip the songs on your computer and do some cutting and pasting. Some hip-hop songs basically loop a 1 bar section and if you can find a section without any vocals, you can copy and paste a bit of that on to where the profanity stands. Another technique is to just reverse the obscene lyric in the song or pasting another lyric instead on top of it.

Dave


Can you explain using this audio editor? I would really, I MEAN really appreciate this!

<DJ_Samu>
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by DJ Samu:
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SpinThis!:
[b]If you're handy with an audio editor, you can rip the songs on your computer and do some cutting and pasting. Some hip-hop songs basically loop a 1 bar section and if you can find a section without any vocals, you can copy and paste a bit of that on to where the profanity stands. Another technique is to just reverse the obscene lyric in the song or pasting another lyric instead on top of it.

Dave<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hello?!? Are you still here?

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First I'm assuming basic knowledge of an audio editor--CoolEdit on PC is a popular option/I use Peak on a Macintosh/Cubase is popular with both platforms. (I'm going to give the lowdown, but if you need more, check the documentation that came with the editor; things are usually straight-forward, though.) Whatever program you choose should be able to do at least the bare minimum digital signal processing and be able to display a "waveform" and allow you to edit the track.

First, import the track; we usually call this "ripping", as you take the source material from CD or MP3 and build the material into a WAV or AIF file. A few audio editors have this feature built-in--it's most likelly located under File->Import... Once you have your track opened up, you'll see a visual "wave" of the track, called the waveform. What you do is very simple--find the part in the track you want to cut out and select that part; then, under Effects or DSP (digital signal processing) menu, choose reverse. This will effectively change the profanity into a reversed "tihs" or "kcuf". Keep doing this until the file is "cleaned up" You can now save the file and burn onto a CD.

However, just basic reverse doesn't always seem to "sound" right. There are plenty of more advanced techniques available. If you have an instrumental of a song or a portion of the song that's not over lyrics, you can take a piece of that, copy the part, select the part to take out, and paste the "clipboarded" part over it so it sounds like there wasn't any lyrics there to begin with. Or you can take another lyric from the song and paste it over the profantic (is that a word?!) lyric. Just like the now-abandoned(?) NBC "censor", you can also use sound effects or skratches to cover up where unwanted material used to be.

In a couple words you're trying to "fake it." The most important thing is to use your ears while you do it. If it sounds hokey, it won't work. But a lot of the time you can get by with it. It sounds a lot harder than it actually is, but it's just like using a word processor except you're not editing words you're editing "sound."

Hope this helps...

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Dave

[This message has been edited by SpinThis! (edited 01-07-2001).]

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