Like I said before, part of what made turntables so attractive is the appearance of the turntable and the dj interacting.

Wth this in mind, can you "cradle, swing back and forth" your cue to get a feel for when to release on beat?

And is the machine DESIGNED TO BE ON VINYL MODE ALL THE TIME BECAUSE if I purchase this unit it will be on vinyl mode ALL THE TIME. Makes no sense keeping this on cdj mode.

I would have to guess that no, it is not meant to be in vinyl mode all the time -- at least, depending on the way you maintain your mixes.

Being that the only way to affect a pitch bend is to rotate the platter forward or backwards in CDJ mode (there are no pitch bend buttons, right?), you will have to use CDJ to keep two tracks in synch unless you only use the fader to do this.

In the interest of matching two tracks quickly, it is essentially mandatory to use CDJ mode when adjusting the incoming track.

It thus becomes evident that the one thing the CDJ does not simulate is the ability on vinyl to drag or push the record to pitch it down & up.

Hence, it would seem that the new CDJ is meant to be used in CDJ mode, with the VINYL mode to be activated when you want to scratch.

X

there are pitch bend buttons. im interested in how the vinyl mode operates coz i feel slightly let down in the descriptions of the vinyl mode. i wont say im let down by the unit though coz i havent tried it (two or three weeks hopefully). verdict will come after some serious time on it.

so you think that the vinyl mode only simulates the realtime audioscrubbing (which we also call scratching but not the speeding up and down of the record itself?
in the video i did see that the DJ was turning the ring at the same time as scratching the platter....maybe the ring is acting like the pitchbend?
jeezz..i get a little tired of all the remarks "wow!" and "yeaaaah!" and "i want one" without any answer to some more important questions like this one..

Olaf (who doesn't like marketing blurbs)

if the above is true, the finalscratch system even looks more impressive

Olaf

Ok here is what you do to start it like a turntable.
Either start your track by using the play or fader start (connected to a DJM5/600) and immeadiatly grab the plate on top... Like you would a record.... Spin it back to the first beat and bob is not only your uncle but a fully operational digital deck... it does work i have tried and tested

Oh and just one other thing for dj-x... The platter works in 2 ways when on vinyl... the top is touch sensative platter to replicate a piece of vinyl... ie push down and the track will! Now the side is a whole other ball game.. use this like you do a 1200... pushing, pulling to speed and slow ya track... they seriously have covered it all.... yippee.....!

Andre,

So the outer "bubble" ring type thingy acts as the pitch bend or "platter"?

Andre,
nice review on the website, BUT as someone that has already been priviledged to have used the units, are u saying that in vinyl mode, you can speed up the track (temporarily) without switching to CDJ mode?
If so that's great.

Also, when you switch from CDJ mode to vinyl mode or vice versa, is there any lag time before the new mode is activated?

DJ GRAHAM
aka MIXMASTER G

Jim - Yes you use the side of the platter as pitch bend.... the side bubbly thing....
And Yes you can speed up in the Turntable mode without going to cdj.... My god that would have been **** if it couldn't.... and Graham... it is instant.... once you are on vinyl go the hack! in my first week i kept changing to see the difference and really you need to learn how hard you push and set the brake and release for your hands.... The platter when you mix in is just as hard as a vinyl.... you can push to hard, to quick or go the other way and endup getting it in late! ...

Thanks for the info Andre

Another question is: When changing from cdj mode to vinyl mode, does it make a skipping or a stuttering type of noise like you get when you enable/disable master tempo on the cdj700/cdj500?

I guess the only concern now is how long that platter functionality is gonna last. I mean, is the machine built to be played on VINYL mode all day?

Another question: when you turn on the machine, does it default at vinyl mode or cdj mode?

Ummm, Karl?

Not sure but from what i have seen, they are made for the playing in Vinyl mode, cdj mode is really not necessary... i think the cdj mode will actually be used as training wheels. otherwise why bother purchasing this technology? It is smooth and heavy and solid... like a deck so just keep it clean from drinks, ash and what ever else messes up your machine.... and keep it clean! I have had cdj's for 2 years trouble free and i think it is because i keep them spotless, it is electronic so like anything treat it well and it shall return the favour.... just my theory.

Hey Fellas,

Sorry I haven't been posting answers to these questions...still trying to recoup my sleep from NY....Karl, Roonie, Toddy & I put in 5 days of working 20-22 hours...so needless to say we were a little wiped.

Major props go out to Andre for answering some of these questions. You have been a big help and made my job a lot easier.

Jim, in response to your questions here are the answers.

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When changing from cdj mode to vinyl mode, does it make a skipping or a stuttering type of noise like you get when you enable/disable master tempo on the cdj700/cdj500?

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THAT WOULD BE NO. THEY CHANGE TOTALLY CLEAN. TO BE HONEST I'VE NEVER HEARD OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ON THE CDJ-700S/CDJ-500 BUT WILL TRY IT OUT ON MY CDJ-700S WHEN I GET TO THE CLUB TONIGHT
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Is the machine built to be played on VINYL mode all day?

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IT'S JUST LIKE MASTER TEMPO IN A SENSE. YOU CAN HAVE IT ON EITHER/OR ALL TIME.
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When you turn on the machine, does it default at vinyl mode or cdj mode?

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IT'S ACTUALLY KIND'VE COOL. IT DEFAULTS TO WHATEVER YOU HAD IT ON LAST.
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AS A SIDE NOTE, THE CDJ MODE WAS LEFT ON TO MAKE THE TRANSITION TO VINYL MODE EASIER FOR PREVIOUS CDJ USERS WHO HAD NEVER TRIED VINYL. THEY CAN TAKE BABY STEPS...USE THE VINYL MODE ON MOST THINGS AND THEN GO TO CDJ MODE IF THEY GET STUCK UNTIL THEY ARE COMPLETELY COMFORTABLE WITH THE VINYL MODE.

Hope that helps,

Brian B.
Pioneer USA

Brian- Just to answer Jim's question about skipping when disengaging master tempo on the cdj-700's....that only happens when the player is dirty. Try using a quality cleaning cd. It solved my problems instantly when I had them 2 years ago and they haven't happened since.

If the Master Tempo jump only happens when the player is dirty then all 4 of my pioneer players were 'dirty' out of the box (CDJ700s and CDJ100s)...but I'm not complaining. Why switch between master tempo and regular in the middle of a track anyway? I've never found the need to do that.

The CDJ 1000 looks like a dream come true, but I dont think I can afford one any time soon...then again, where there is a will there is a way!

Happy Spinning!

HB

HB

Here is one for the designers:

If you cue up a record in VINYL mode and you bob (scratch on the fist beat) and you turn the platter to much back and it come's in the previous track, will the autocue then come in and stop the play'ing?

I know it sound a bit confusing, but true cddj men will know what i'm talking about...

Very simple
It works like a vinyl turntable

so the auto cue dont work on vinyl mode... hmm cool...

Hmm... let's take this frame by frame... when you drop a CD in, it will start at track one, but where does it go from there? Does it start right away or does it wait for you to cue it up? Obviously, you need to pick the track. Or does the jog dial actually skip to different tracks as well? (Like on my Akai Remix 16, there's an inner wheel and an outer wheel.. the inner wheel is for a finer adjustment and the outer wheel is for less adjusting. From the Roonie G video is looks like the CDJ has that same kind of setup... where moving the outside part slows the track down or speeds it up and the inner "jog" skips to different parts of song playing, like moving a record.)

I can see a need to have CDJ mode as well as regular vinyl mode. Personally, setting up a cue point in CDJ is easier and quicker than dropping a needle down on a piece of vinyl. You could be on 3 decks... you set one up with one cue point and the other deck is playing while you're cutting on the 3rd deck. You can wait until the last second to start cueing the track. You really don't need to "slip cue" it unless you're scratching the first part. I guess to each his own.

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Dave

Yes the Auto Cue does work in Turntable mode.... The auto cue works in either mode is probably an easier way to put it!
You still need to start the track by either the fader start or play button.... From there catch the first beat and treat it like a deck... Think of it like putting a record onto a stopped platter, you still need to hit that start/stop key right?

The jog dial is not used for finding tracks...it is used for scanning, scratching, slowing and speeding... Remember the 4 S's