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Hello DJs,

I have had a pair of CDJ 1000s and a DJM 600 for five years now. Yes, they are the very first model CDJ 1000s, and I love them.

I just have one simple question I can't seem to find the answer to. Will these CDJ 1000s work flawlessly with Serato Scratch Live or not? Does anyone know?

I have heard and read tons of info about them working well with MK2 and MK3 models, but never about the very first MK1 model. I need to know so I can make a decision on purchasing SSL, and this will determine my purchase of this product.

I hope my question is understood.

Thank You and Keep On Mixing,

-OmniRemix
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Can't find the answer or didn't search?

Yes, they work flawlessly with SSL.


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Thank you Pulse for helping a brother out. Your answer assisted me in making an educated decision on purchasing new DJ equipment.

Pulse,

I'm not the kind of person who just wants easy answers, and I assure you that I did search for the answer to this question I asked. I found plenty of info regarding the CDJ 1000 MK2 and MK3 players, but almost nothing regarding the original CDJ 1000 model, which is what I have.

I have been using this forum since 2000, and other than this, I have always been able to search and find answers to all my questions. I would have not even made an account if I would have found the answer. However, if it is out there, I may have just been searching in the wrong place and I apologize.

I just really needed a definite answer from an expert or someone who knew for sure before I made another serious purchase.

I really appreciate your patience and your help.

-OmniRemix
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No problem - I appreciate your being up-front. The only reason I said it was there had been discussion recently about the exact thing.

There are people who don't understand the 3 modes of Serato and it's important that you figure out the 2 which work best for you - Relative and Absolute. Internal is out of the picture because it can't be used with timecode CDs properly.

Relative mode doesn't allow for external loops (those created with the CDJ) and Absolute mode doesn't allow for internal loops (loops that are stored and triggered via the software itself).

Other than that, everything works as expected -- except Master Tempo. The reason for this is MT is designed for manipulation of musical signal, not timecode. When you alter the timecode signal which the software is expecting, it will begin to behave abnormally.

I've used my CDJ1000 MK1's with Serato without much hesitation or issue... but I don't scratch so perhaps someone who does might chime in and say otherwise.


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does anyone know if the hot cues work with serato or traktor?
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Yes - same as loops, only in absolute mode.


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What do you mean by "absolute mode" Pulse?

Just another question that seems to follow in the same topic. Would everything work if I were to use Final Scratch 2, use it with 2 CDJ 1000's and a DJM 800, but also use both firewires on the Final Scratch for different things. One to run Final Scratch with Traktor on my mac or alienware, and the other using MIDI from mixer to FS to mac to run ableton or something else MIDI capable?

I'm pretty sure it would work, but some assurance from your knowledge would be greatly appreciated. I do know that FS is an external sound card interface.

Thanks
Andy
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That is using both firwires at the same time as well. Sorry i didn't add that.
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Absolute mode refers to the fact that the timecode starts at zero and ends at ... 15 minutes. If you went to 6:31 and continued playing, the software takes you to that point in the song. If you were using relative mode, the software doesn't care WHERE the timecode is, just what direction it's moving. If you start playing in absolute mode and then jump the timecode to 6:31, the software keeps playing the audio at the same position it was before the jump.

Oh, and never connect both FireWire ports on a device to the same computer or another computer. It's intended for linking from a source to a destination, ie. from your computer to another FW device such as a hard drive. All of the functionality of the device is carried out over a single cable, you don't require multiple connections for all the features of that box.


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Thanks Pulse. So that means that I should only use 1 firewire cable from my Mac to the FS box, and it will control both the MIDI mixer and Traktor running on my mac with my CDJS?
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That as well goes for the "at the same time as well". Sorry
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Yes - the wonderful thing about FireWire and USB is they can handle massive amounts of information over various protocols from hardware. Both audio and MIDI information would be transmitted via a single FW cable.


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Great. Thanks Pulse. Hope the best for you.
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