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Pioneer Newbie
Location: Australia
Registered: 12 September 2008
Posts: 4
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Hey all,

I had heaps of questions about the cdj1000\djm800 which were all answered by going through about the first 15 pages of this forum section and searching! Turned out to be pretty interesting and I found out heaps I didn't know Big Grin

What I basically am doing is picking up my gear next month and I want to be nice and prepared for when I get it..

I'm using RCA leads from decks to the mixer because coaxial prevents fader start (True\False?) If not I'd like to use digital cables but I read about the fader start somewhere..

After reading several posts I've decided to not use mp3 discs, only 1 or 2 for acapellas\dj tools. I have a stereo which takes mp3 discs and theres a lot less functionality, the search is painfully slow and you can't see remaining time.. not to mention the time is out sometimes.. and I've learnt from reading on here that the waveform only loads in realtime! I'd like to know.. does the cdj1000 read the file name at all or JUST the cd text for each track?

I use mixed in key, which I personally find pretty accurate, so I plan on having about 10 songs to a disc, nearly all my tracks (I use djdownload\beatport) are 320kbps.. and I want to have the songs key (using Camelot system eg. 12B) then the BPM (maybe) then the artist and track name displayed.. so to get it to display like that ("SONGKEY BPM - Artist - Title") woul I just put that in the cd text accordingly?

Also a bit off topic but.. I plan on recording my mixes from the digital out on the mixer to my sound card. I'm able to spend a bit on a decent sound card with digital in, has anyone got any suggestions?

Also.. if I'm just buying my cdj's now will it have the latest firmware or not necessarily?

Finally, a lot of times when searching on beatport I see dub mixes and versions.. what are these used for? I'm aware they usually have very little or no vocals and it's sometimes more than just an instrumental club mix.. but what is their main purpose?

That's all! Sorry about the broadness of the questions but I thought it would be tons easier than posting 5 or so seperate posts. If I think of any more I'll ask away. Thanks guys
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Location: Vancouver, Canada
Registered: 24 October 2006
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Clearing up some misinformation...

The faderstart will work with the digital, you just have to connect the analog as well as the faderstart cable. A weird quirk, but true (apparently).

The waveform for MP3s DOES load in realtime due to the decoding of the MP3. If you have an SD card in the player (to store cuepoints and waveforms), the wave will be stored there after its load is completed and thus next time it will appear instantly!

Text displayed for the track is actually read from the ID3 showing Song / Artist / Album info.

Yes you could show any information you want, you need to select one of those fields (above) to put it in when editing your ID3 info. Remember that there is a maximum number of characters (which I can't exactly recall at this moment but 64 seems to come to mind).

Search the Studio forum for soundcard suggestions, lots of props for the M-Audio FW410.

Chances are that the 1000's will have the newest firmware but it doesn't matter - if they're MK3's you can update them in a couple of minutes.

Different versions of songs (dub / vocal / remixes) are almost like different songs. Personally, I'm a dub fan because I find many vocals just seem to mask the cool underlaying track.

No worries in plunking it all in one thread and welcome to the forum!

PS: Thanks for using the search! Big Grin


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Location: Sweden
Registered: 04 August 2008
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quote:
I'm using RCA leads from decks to the mixer because coaxial prevents fader start (True\False?) If not I'd like to use digital cables but I read about the fader start somewhere..


Hi!
I'm only using coaxial cables (digital) and the control cables between my CDJ-1000MK3's and DJM-800 and there's no problem with faderstart.

I don't use RCA cables.

Cheers!
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That's weird because someone else was having a problem when using the digital only and they read in the manual it requires the analog connection as well (which I don't understand).

Okay, so now we've heard it both ways. I'm confused and need to get my hands on a CDJ1000 again.

Oakstream - which generation are you using? MK1, 2 or 3?


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Location: Sweden
Registered: 04 August 2008
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I'm using CDJ-1000MK3's

This is from the manual (Page 13):
Note that digital connections can be made only with mixers equipped
with digital input connectors (models DJM-800, DJM-1000, etc.).

Maybe the person who got problem with faderstart and coaxial cables didn't owned an DJM-800 or DJM-1000?

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Where were they connecting the digital outs to then I wonder? Confused


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Location: Sweden
Registered: 04 August 2008
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Yeah, you got a point there Smiler

I think I found the previous post about this, from dj_blueprint:
quote:
Originally posted by Pulse:
You can use either... but you also need to use the control cable.


Using the control cables already BUT check this out-

From the manual CDJ1000mk2:
Note:
The fader start function will not be enabled if digital connections are
used alone; to use the fader start function, be sure to connect the CD
player’s analog connectors as well.

He's using MK2's...
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Location: Australia
Registered: 12 September 2008
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Ok that all sounds good! I'll see what works with the fader start, seems like maybe on the MK3s you can use just the digital cables and still use fader start maybe.

I'll have a look around for a sound card\audio interface, the M-Audio FW410 seems a bit pricey I really only need a digital input on my computer.

Also another thing I wanted to ask was.. how do you guys decide what tracks to put on each disc? I have a lot of tracks, I take it that a lot of people make 2 copies of each disc so that if a track you need to mix into is on the disc you're using already you can still do that.

I know some of you put 1 song to a disc, like vinyl, but I just think this would take up an incredible amount of discs, even though they're cheap they still take up a significant amount of room and a lot of care would have to be taken for every one of those discs! As I said I'm having about 10 tracks to a disc, just thought I'd ask before I go burning away. And how do you remember what tracks are where?

Thanks guys
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