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Pioneer Newbie
Registered: 12 April 2005
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This sofware not played WAV&AIFF files, this is great problem for me & many psytrance DJ`s from Russia. I`m played only hi qualyty records and absolutely not played MP3 records.

Please make support for wav files!!!

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Location: Vancouver, Canada
Registered: 24 October 2006
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Sorry, the problem with WAV files is the storage requirement. This software is targeted at mobile DJs who aren't carrying around 2TB worth of music.


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Ya, it's an MP3 Program. Have you tried MP3s at 320kbps?


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Sorry, the problem with WAV files is the storage requirement. This software is targeted at mobile DJs who aren't carrying around 2TB worth of music.




Many DJs is mobile. But all not travellyng with 1000 vynyls(for example)...
Copy to disc music fo set & enjoy But MP3 good format to preview music, and very bad for professional use!

For me Pioneer assotiated with professional non compromise products. MP3 - not professional - for home party only.....

Pioneer sofware have very good interface, very good for work, but MP3 format not professional....

Give me WAV!!! Or HD audio!!!


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Have you tried MP3s at 320kbps?




YES This quality not for me....

Bad BASS (distortions)
Bad HI (18 kHz only)
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Location: Derby, UK
Registered: 04 October 2006
Posts: 27
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I used to think the same about mp3's.

It is true that at lower bitrates that mp3's do sound shoddy on anything bigger then a home hi-fi.
However I've found there to be very little difference between a well encoded 320 Kbits mp3 and the original wav file it was generated from.

At 320 Kbits the original data is being sampled fast enough that the waveform can be accurately reconstructed using error detection & correction systems...you save a lot of space but don't lose too much quality.
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Location: Vancouver, Canada
Registered: 24 October 2006
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I challenge you to tell the difference between a 320k / 44.1kHz MP3 encoded at the best quality vs. a PCM Wave file, I guarantee you won't be able to hear the difference.

18kHz vs 20kHz isn't a deal-breaker, I serioualt doubt you can hear that high anyhow.


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I challenge you to tell the difference between a 320k / 44.1kHz MP3 encoded at the best quality vs. a PCM Wave file, I guarantee you won't be able to hear the difference.

18kHz vs 20kHz isn't a deal-breaker, I serioualt doubt you can hear that high anyhow.




For me not problem find difference between MP3 vs WAV files!

I can listen music!
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Location: Derby, UK
Registered: 04 October 2006
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Brian Tappert of Soulfuric records set people the same test...I don't think anybody he spoke to could actually tell the diference...

Intrancer I think the 'difference' is in your head. You hear the same as the rest of us....at 320Kbits mp3 encoding your brain cannot distinguish any difference...because it cannot tell which frequencies are missing.
Harmonically related frequencies and frequencies surrounding the removed area will mask up any loss..it is a physco-acoustic trick
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Location: Vancouver, Canada
Registered: 24 October 2006
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Sorry Intrancer, I've done the test in the past and with blind samples converted from WAV > MP3 (320) > WAV and another straight WAV, the users couldn't tell which were original and which had been converted.

I'm a big fan of quality, believe me, MP3 is not my first choice but thanks to the way it grew in popularity, it's the most popular one.

If you don't believe me, I'm sorry but you're wasting HD space.


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Sorry Intrancer, I've done the test in the past and with blind samples converted from WAV > MP3 (320) > WAV and another straight WAV, the users couldn't tell which were original and which had been converted.

I'm a big fan of quality, believe me, MP3 is not my first choice but thanks to the way it grew in popularity, it's the most popular one.

If you don't believe me, I'm sorry but you're wasting HD space.





1 This users not listen music.... Russian psy promos rent very hi qualuty sound systems and MP3 very difference to WAV. Read russian PSY forums. DJ who played MP3 - LOL... this not my words this is words many many people.

2 MP3 popular for home use, for boys and girls with MP3 players.... I don`t see MP3 samples in professional record sudios only WAV (24/96 or 24/192), why they used this formats if users not see difference?

3 Price HD 250 GB - 93usd in Russia .... Price 1 quality cd - 15-20usd....
1 HD = 5cd (price) 1 HD = 360 CD (space) wasting HD space?

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Location: Cudahy, WI
Registered: 16 August 2007
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Honestly guys... You won't really hear a difference on a home system or a small PA, however if you are playing on a big rig 10kw or more, there is a noticeable difference when you switch between wav and 320 mp3. It not my head that's making this up... My situation is a I've always been a cd dj, and I also make my own music. When I go somewhere to perform, like Russia, I have to bring my laptop, and not only do I perform live, but I also dj as well. I'm getting tired of carrying around cds, especially since I have all this music in wav. format already on my hard disk. I finally caved to wanting to seek a software alternative which is what brought me to your software. I've been an avid Pioneer owner since 2001 starting with the cd 100s and eventually getting the cmx 3000s, as well as the matching djm3000 mixer. I looked at Traktor and Virtual dj, and it really felt slightly alien to me. However the lack of the ability to play wav, is something that not only am I disappointed with, but slightly appalled by. If you're not going to do wav. files, at least offer some other form of lossless audio support. That way us artists don't have to convert our music that's written in wav. or aiff to mp3 just to stay loyal to the company we have supported in the past by purchasing their hardware and other pro-audio products. Otherwise, Torq is looking better and better every day...
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Location: Vancouver, Canada
Registered: 24 October 2006
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And honestly, if you're playing on a system big enough to notice a difference between quality-encoded 320k MP3s and the original recording, you should either be using software greater than DJS or just use CD/DVDs.


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Location: France
Registered: 18 January 2007
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As Pulse, I'm a big fan of high quality sound, spending k€ in home sound-system. Thus I can feel differences between tracks from different studios using different sample qualities but can't see any differences with 320 Kbps CBR MP3 and WAV...
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