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Xavien > I don't use the DJM800 with VirtualDJ because I run the mixer as an audio-only device when working with DJ apps.

Hubi > Glad to hear it! Smiler If you want to use all 4 channels of the DJM800 for control, you won't want to run audio through them. Just remember, the device is audio first, MIDI second. If you turn the bass knob, that channel's audio will have the bass altered. This is why I typically suggest the 2/2 setup for those who are wanting to use the 800 as a controller. To assign the outputs for each channel, first open the input/output section of the channel strip by clicking the IO icon to the right of the master strip. You'll then be able to assign inputs and outputs for each of the channels depending on what audio devices you have assigned within the settings.


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Yes Pulse I hear that. I started messing around with the guide u made and some other forums and the assignment of controls and its pretty straight forward. 1st problem I see is in VDJ it seems to only allow for 2 channel usage and not all 4 channels. Is this the norm in programs of this sort or is this a VDJ prob itself? Second, I'm running MIDI out on my convertor I still have a MIDI in connection available. Can I assume that I can use that to control "lighting" or will that require another out connection? Is MIDI daisy-chainable as to hook up and control other devices? Thanks for the help dude!
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It should allow you to use any of the control points on the mixer; it doesn't know what MIDI command belongs to which "channel" on the mixer, all it sees is a signal being sent over MIDI.

MIDI can be daisy-chained provided the device you're using has a THRU output. Some pieces, such as the EFX1000 have an IN and OUT, but they don't pass incoming signal to the output port. If you're running software, you could use an application such as MIDI-OX to take incoming signal and change it or simply output it as it came in.


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Hi

I really hope someone reads this as I seem to be joining really late!!!
(also I apologize for my lack of understanding the midi guide)
Basically...
will an M "AUDIO MIDIMAN MIDISPORT 2X4 USB MIDI INTERFACE" do the job of allowing my DJM800 mixer to communicate with my mac running ableton live?

thanks so much
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ANY MIDI input device will work - whether it's as part of a soundcard or keyboard or just a stand-alone MIDI input.


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i was curious i have a cdj m 800 and a m-audio 410 i have the midi into the out to the in the firewire where do i go from their in ableton
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See your other post.


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Pulse Thanks so much for this guide.

I have Live set up so I play CDJ's on channels 1&2 and Live on 3 & 4 and I've limited midi control which I could expand. My query though is I am very interested in learning how to record the output of CDJ's, Live tracks & effects, DJM800 faders & effects into a channel in live - i.e. record the output of a set where I'm using all the capabilities open to me .

Is this easily achieved ? You may have kind of described this in your guide - apologies if you have.

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I didn't touch on recording into Ableton... the basics of that would depend on how exactly you want to record it...

You can record a direct input from the CDJ into Ableton by connecting the player directly into an input on your soundcard and then setting up a channel in Ableton as an input with the ability to record (see the IO portion of the channel strip).

You could also route the audio from the CDJ into the mixer then dump the output from the DJM800 into Ableton but that is a "blended" audio source (especially if you have Ableton outputting itself into the mixer).


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Thanks Pulse, I think I'm looking for something more like the second option - i've been told I can route audio (sourced from live channels via the DJM800) as per my set up and the CDJ's basically everything that comes out of the speakers. This allows me the benefit of using the mixer for EQ's, faders etc and the on board effects and when required use Live for loops and beatmatching less mixing .

I believe that you have to use the record out of mixer into my soundcard and then I have to do some configuring within live for everything to be input into a channel that I can then record as an ableton set ??

It would be brilliant to be able to do this as I could record sets thru live but be actually dj'ing using the mixer as I prefer this way.

Hope this makes sense !?

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Okay ... to play FROM Ableton as well as record TO Ableton yes, you need to have a separate channel in the software setup as an INPUT and you then arm it to record while you're playing. If it's connected from the output of the mixer, you'll get whatever you feed it; CDJs, Ableton outputs, etc. Just be sure not to create a loop - MUTE the recording channel or don't allow it to output!


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Thanks Pulse, my soundcard is out of commission currently - once I have a new one I'll be sure to try and set this up.

To clarify, how do I connect the recording channel to the mixer - is that via the record out of the mixer into the soundcard ?

Apologies I'm not very clued up on this !!!

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Yes - you send the mixer's master or recording output to the soundcard's input.


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Hi Pulse,
hope everything is fine!!!

I have bought myself a new soundcard. The M-Audio ProFire 610. Which means 6 in 10 outs. I am using the DJM-800 & Live 7 and want to use the DJM800 as an Live audio device (Analog).

I have followed your guide and did everything right as you mentioned in Method 1: Discrete Outputs. Everything is running fine and the sound is running through Channel 2 & 3.

Unfortunately, I can not use the "CUE" button on the DJM800. Well I can hear the sound when I press the cue putton on channel 2 but only if the fader is up. When the fader is down and I press the cue, I should hear something but its not working. Do you know what I am doing wrong??

In Ableton, on the master channel where it says, Cue Out and Master Out, I am not sure what I have to assign (as it also says nothing in your guide) Which outputs??

In your template you have also kindly provided us, the cue button is working.

I really hope you can help me out so I can use the cue button on the DJM800. I know its probably something wrong in Ableton.

Thank you, thanks you, thank you!!!!
Have a great day!!

Greets,
Hubi
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I don't recall if I have that cue button mapped or not - the reason you may be only hearing the cue (on CH2/3) when the fader is up... that fader is controlling the MIDI for the channel in Ableton which is outputting the audio. As you have the fader on the CDJ800 down, the fader is also down in the software, thus not sending the audio to that channel. If you're using it as a discrete output, you don't need to map the fader because the DJM's fader will act as the "volume control" for that audio.

If you want to use the cue and master outputs of Ableton, I can certainly walk you through that but in that case, you aren't using discrete outputs - you sum the master audio out into one channel on the mixer.


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