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@Tim > Torq is MIDI controllable software (that isn't tied to specific hardware) and the DDJ-T1 is a MIDI controller so yes, you can use it to control Torq but you'll need to do all the mappings yourself.
If you look on the Avid forums you'll see some users have mapped the T1 already and have posted their 'how-to'.
Reason for asking is that i got this question.
Can You tell me if the jog/scratchwheels of DDJ-T1 can make reliable scratching together with Torq 2.02?
Now i another question from the same user and he askes if it works with Torq 2.0.3.
But since it is not tied to the hardware it should work, right?
Yes, they are assignable but I know that users of Torq have had trouble assigning them.
Correct, you pay for the software and it's not tied to any specific hardware (just like Traktor).
To be honest, I tried it - the MIDI config in Torq is horrific. You'll have nightmares trying to map the jogs to the software.
@Pulse: The MIDI configurartion in Torq is VERY smart! And SUPER easy to set up! I have never seen a piece of software that made it so easy, I must say! ;)
It have 2 ways:
* Either you just right click on a thing on the screen in Torq and then You just turn, push or moves a knob/button/fader/wheel whatever on an external MIDI controller and VUPTI.. it works right away & perfectly!
* The other way is a very advanced setup where you can do allmost everything you can imagine. And much more creative than I have seen in any MIDI setups in any program ever.
But when thats said.. Actually this thread is initiated by me. And my frustrations goes to that the scratchwheels are not reliable with the Xponent controller that Avid sell themself together with Torq. It looses its focus point within few seconds.
And Avid dont wanna tell people if its because of the hardware or because of the software. They also dont wanna tell if it works better with other hardware controllers. Users are left alone with themself in a forum called http://www.torq-dj.com/forum/.
Thats why I contacted Pioneer in the hope that they were more customer friendly and could tell if it works together with DDJ-T1.
I know Pioneer is so popular for their quality, so I was really happy to see when they launched their 2 (now 3) DJ controllers. Specially the DDJ-T1 because it has 4 channels.
So thats why I asked them to test it. And it is much more easy for Pioneer to test it, because they have the hardware and they can even download a free version of Torq here: http://apps.avid.com/Torq_trial/.
But if all the help I get is that I just is referred to now Pioneers user forum and the people here just refers to the Torq DJ user forum.. then its just going in ring and then its no help to me or anybody else.
The important next step here is that someone actually TRIES the 2 things together!
So, can anyone do that? :)
Thank You
PS: Are Gavin and Pulse Pioneer employees?
No, neither of us are actual employees; we're volunteer moderators for the forums.
I've tried virtually every DJ software application out there - and no, Torq's MIDI mapping is not user friendly (nor is Traktor, really), especially how they break things down into those groupings.
I just played around again and found a few things to map, and as stated above, the jog is honestly the hardest one to configure.
ok, sounds very interesting. So You actually have one DDJ-T1?
I can tell you that I also tried to configure a MC-505 wheel. And I found out that the reason of why it was difficult to configure was that it was sending out several and different types of MIDI signals. So maybe it could be the same issue with DDJ-T1?
Have you tried downloading a free MIDI monitor program like http://obds.free.fr/midimon/ ?
It can help in the proces, specially if it sends out several codes.
And may I ask, what problems have you run into so far?
@Svend > Yes, I have a T1, an S1 and an Ergo, and I'm very versed in MIDI, but Torq is still a nuisance.
Ok, I would be happy to hear the result, if it succeeds for you!?
Also if it succeeds for you with Torq and 1 of the 2 other S1 or Ergo?
Do You have other DJ controllers as well?
@Svend > I'm not about to spend the time mapping out Torq; if you have one and you're interested in creating a map, you're welcome to do so.
@Svend > I started out on the Xponent and I happily abandoned it (and Torq) at 1.4.1.
@Pulse: The situation is that I dont have any hardware (anymore), but wants to find out what to buy! Preferrably some DJ controller that works together with Torq.
You are the first one I hear form that actually have both DDJ-T1 and Torq. But id you dont wanna test it, I guess I just have to wait until someone else can give an answer.
@Gavin: Much has happened since that, specially in Torq 2. Why happily?
I don't have Torq, I downloaded the trial for another user to check something out -- I wouldn't use that software if I was forced to. I'd rather use iTunes.
ok, LOL, then you are certainly not the right person to ask!
What is you 2's favorite DJ programs then?
I love Serato Scratch Live and use that just a little bit more than Serato Itch (which I have used since I got the DDJ-S1).
@Svend I am just curious why would u buy a T1 to see if u can u Torq? I've nvr used Torq mainly because of what I've seen/heard about it. So I'm curious as to what it can do that Traktor can't or Serato if someone was to buy a S1 and then MIDI map that. Plus if I understand correctly if you use it the controller(s) with the software it's intended to be used with that you get HID instead of MIDI controll which will always have tighter integration. So why reduce the information transfer and change softwares???
@DJ B-Leve: Im happy for your question.
First, when I originally bought Xponent & Torq, it was if not first, then one of the first ones. Specially I liked that there were so many bottons and that they all had cool light in, so you could see everything even it was dark.
I really liked there were so many buttons for samples and for cuepoints and a long pitchslider and it had a mousepad directly on the controller. Then it had kill buttons on all EQs and transformer buttons in both sides of the crossfader!
In short , it looked like a dream come thru! :)
Then I found out that the software was also super userfriendly, intuitive and I got happy by each new thing I discovered that it could do things I had been looking for for years.
The software also have:
- so many built in effects and they can be chained in several ways. It that was not enough it could also use all VST effects
the grid & sync system is awsome. By it self it grids all tracks, but if you are not happy with what the system did or you have an old song that doesnt follow any beat, then you can easily change beat points (anchors) yourself and vupti it sounds like a dream!
the sync buttons are working much better and intuitive than in other software like Traktor, where everytime I see someone demonstrate it, it doesnt work
the genious transformer effect functionality I simply LOVE, when you can assign a button on each side of the crossfader to have volume to 127 or 0. Earlier you had to build this yourself in a box for itself!
. the new morphing crossfader! Yes they have invented a morphing mode, which is simply genious! And the crossfader have many cool modes, which I havent seend in other DJ software.
then that it have this 10 sample buttons and 10 cuepoints buttons is the first and only system that have so many! And you can assign more! And you can asisgn more! With SHIFT or an A/B button, you simply double up everything! :)
How the cuepoints works and you can play around with them in perfect tempo as it was samples is genious and you can do you own live remixes.
how the pitchslider works with the looping system is genious and you can make cool transformer and sweeping effects also with this like in Swedish House Mafia: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkQ5rEJaTmk&ob=av2e
the HUGE amount of flexibility, no borders!, creativity is great! You can assign everything to everything what you want! If its MIDI, if its any buttons on hardwarecontroller or the keyboard itself.
Its super easy to assign new functionality by MIDI, you just rightclick and turn a knob! Finish and you are running! :)
I have honestly never seen it done so easy in any MIDI / music / DJ program before!
And it thats not enough!? You can assign really advanced MIDI setups and shortcuts with multiple functions and it also have incredible smart Snapshot funtionality, so you can actually record in whatever state your setup is in and take a snapshot and asisgn it to a button and then play with this in amazing live remix production setups!
it have super smart & flexible 4 channel setup
I could continue...
But in short.. There is no limits with that system! You think of something, and then you can do it!
YES, im in love with that program!
I just dont like that Avid have a HUGE BRICK-WALL between them and their customers and that they dont wanna fix the scratchwheel issue or tell IF they wanna fix it. And they didnt fix it now for 3 years! And meanwhile all other vendors have now also come up with controllers with light in and samplebuttons and 4 channels AND a working scrathwheel!
But I didnt see any setup with so many smaple & cuepoints buttons like Xponent. The Voxoa C60 is the closest one I have found, that looks cool, have many buttons, is inituitive put together, have light in the buttons and claims good scrathwheels.
But this HID vs. MIDI sounds interesting! And if someone could tell me that some other system is as cool and can do the same things as Torq I will be more than happy to listen! :)
What are You using DJ B-Leve? I would love to hear your recommendations and comparising! ;)
@Pulse: Maybe you could also share a comparising of why You love Serato Scratch Live!? ;)
@Svend > For exactly the opposite of all the reasons you mentioned above; it's clean and simple, it does just what you need it to without overcomplicating the process. I need decks onscreen to control with my CDJs and the audio through my mixer. I'm a good DJ because of how I DJ, not because of what my software does.
hehe.. Indeed! You have to be a good and creative DJ yourself! And no software does the work for you! But the more flexible the software/hardware is, the more creative You can be! :)
Someone sticks to 1210 and a 3 button mixer. Thats fine by me.
Of course, and to each their own -- it doesn't matter what you use to rock the party so long as you rock the party and enjoy doing it.
Dude this Maping works for Torq 2.0.2 on DDJ-T1
Hi Ian, thank you for your reply.
1) Where do you have it from? From the Torq-forum?
2) Have you tried it yourself?
3) Is the scratchwheels working perfect with that setting file?
Hello I post here the new link for my xml, cause MobileMe is now close.
As I seen there is still unfortunately no better mapping actually :(
The only problem with my mapping is the led of the ddjt1, all the rest are working included the jog, I did work on this mapping since beginning of 2011, there maybe now an issue with this F$%g LED :)
I just cheched and seems that led problem are now fixed, probably due to an update from AVID.
-- to navigate in the tree list and the playlist just use the browser button and push it to enter in a list (hold the "tree" button to back and push browse button to back) and load with a b c d (C is deck 1, A is deck 2, B is deck 3, D is deck 4)
-- use advanced/chained button to switch between fx deck 1 and 2 or 3 and 4,
-- the touch filter is specialy for use with the reverse fx
-- select fx with the buttons 1 for fx1 and 3 for fx2 (press shift for decrease)
-- unloop with auto loop
cue led is working but "cue exclusivity" must be set as "no" in the behavior preferences
no quick cue assigned
(hold the "tree" button and push browse button to back)
@svend I am also an advanced Torq 2.02 user and I totally agree that its functionality is absolutely unreal and unique especially when it comes to the advanced midi mapping. could you possibly email (miracleincession@gmail.com) we so we could discuss Torq 2.02 in more detail aside from this forum, I'd like to ask you a few things and maybe also show you a few things I've learned myself, its really brilliant in my opinion.
Cheers :)