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DDJ-S1 Monitor Speaker Input

Quick question if i may. Am I missing something or is there no monitor speaker input on this unit? I am aware I could use the master 2 to connect it but that leaves me unable to control the volume on the monitor speaker.

Colesy

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Colsey, does it have XLR or RCA? I have studio monitors and they work perfectly on the RCA, test that one out.

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The issue is not with the monitor speaker the issue is being able to connect it to the ddj-s1 and control the volume of it seperately from the master volume

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Well..Hm...I would check the speakers, might be just that or wait until Pulse or someone like that posts here.

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you can try this :

[Can't link to retailers]

plug it between the master and the monitor...

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@Colesy > I understand what you are saying.

The S1 has two Master Outputs (as you are aware). While you can have one Master Output connected to the Master speakers, you can connect the second set to your monitors. The only thing is, you'll need independent control of the monitors to adjust the volume. In line units are available from different retailers.

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Thanks for the comments people I'll purchase an independent controller for the monitor speakers. I didn't think pioneer would leave out such functionality.

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@Colesy > Not everyone uses monitors, so not including it was a means of keeping cost under control, which would ultimately have to be borne by the end user.

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After having owned a DDJ S1 for about 9 months now, as far as I can see, this is the only MAJOR fault in the S1. :(((

Having separate master and booth-outs is an absolute necessity for my company's activities and all our dj-team. Dancefloor and peripheral speakers need to be separately adjustable, and having to control this from the amplifiers' knobs is extremely inconvenient!! The best case scenario would have been 2 booth-outs (one for the dj monitor and one for peripheral speakers), except for the basic master-out. I guess that might be a tad too much to ask for lol. 

I thought of 2 temporary solutions (till the S2 comes out which should at least have ONE booth out hopefully): Either some kind of splitter that would split ONE master-out signal into 2 or 3 different XLR-outs (with separately adjustable volumes obviously), OR, another device that would adjust the volume-out of the master2-out of the S1.

Problem is that I'm at loss of where to find devices like these... I don't even know what they're called so I can google them.. They obviously have to be small, light, portable, reliable & of course, affordable! :) I know you won't be able to provide links here, but maybe if you can tell me the brand name, model & types I can finally find something to solve our problem... THANXXXX :))

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@Pulse : thanx for your reply but please explain how this unit takes 2 input channels (left + right) and splits them into 4 (2 left + 2 right) with separate volume levels..
From what I can see in the photo, it just takes 2 balanced nputs and converts them into 2 unbalanced - or vice versa - and the volume (output) levels are separate between left and right channels only...
Am I missing something?

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With due respect to all of the professional developers and staff at pioneer but the comment of Gavin about keeping cost under control as a reason for not putting a "booth" out knob is absolutely the biggest crap ever heard, first of all the knowledge is there already so it's not like they are wasting money and time on researching this possibility...second the pioneer DDJ price range would still not drop because it is being artificially held so high because of PIO's  "high profile" professional status, we all know where they are being made...third, if a extra bypass and knob would make such a big difference why does the tractor version basically cost almost the the same? It has more faders, more pan pots etc...fourth not  "everybody" using monitors is absolutely a lame excuse for simply NOT accommodating the majority of deejays that DO use monitors, if some don't use monitors fine..but give them at least the choice to be able too. I have the 2000's and the nexus mixer too but the ddj is  ideal for boat parties, short gigs and small beach (think dusty) gigs but that monitor out could basically have been a simple second "zone" out with TRS  plugs so deejays could use it any way they want. Simple useful and soooo easy for pioneer to have done it. It's great product but leaving out this "monitor out" was the most commented stupid "fault" of all sellers and buyers that I have spoken to...If you don't believe me ask them...by the way I recommend the samson s-mix to compensate for that...

My wish...I would like Pioneer to make this "add-on" zone volume controller, same way numark did with its EFX control unit (for the NS6 I think).

greetings from Curacao and keep up the good work.

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And with all due respect to you, Willy, it was excluded as a cost-saving, and that's a fact.  It's not just a matter of adding one knob, it's the knob, the circuitry, the outputs, and that all adds up.

And there ARE add-on modules available -- I've linked them above.

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Dear Pulse, to me, following your comments for quite a while I must admit that you are one of the most respected moderators, and if you say "it's  the cost factor" it  must be the truth... However as it seems (pro and entry level alike) Pio users in my humble opinion usually  proved always to be determined to accept the price as long as they got a product that did completely what it has been built for. Since when was Pioneer concerned with a cost factor and because of that leaving certain essentials out of the designs? Please let me know if I missed out on that.

I am referring to the decision for NOT adding that feature as a decision that for most of the key players in this business (DeeJay's, salespeople, etc) seemed UNacceptable even in terms of addtional cost. Pulse...How much more would this unit have cost?  This must be a new PIO filosophy!!...It's for example a fact that other Pioneer units come with additional features that are most of the time NEVER used/ touched (for example the send /returns on most DJM Mixers).  Why did Pioneer not remove those knobs/circuitry /outputs that were adding up to the costs of those? Dear Pulse, I am just wording the opinion of many, many that commented on the lack of this feature...did you read the rest of what I wrote? If "knobs, circuitry, outputs" were the issue in relation to cost this would basically mean that the tractor version of the DDJ should cost a lot more....What about the development of a Pioneer brand add on zone volume control option? Something that would basically clip on and fit on the rca outs, I dont know how you would do with the powersupply issue.

Greetings from Curacao

BOOGIE

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Honestly, I'm not blowing smoke up your kilt -- there were several things omitted purely from a cost / space perspective and unfortunately because of the target market for this product, the booth output was one of them.  You may think of the cost as being what it costs for an external box (about $30-50), but when that function is internal on the controller, the costs go up a bit more - and it's nothing to do with "Pioneer pricing," but I would honestly guess it would have been at least $50 more to retail, and in Pioneer world, staying under price points with products is important.  But this isn't a discussion about Pioneer pricing, it's about the feature.  Believe me, I would love to have seen it included - I never use a monitor myself but have found many times where I've used the booth output as an auxiliary / zone output.

The S1 costs more than the T1 does because the T1 doesn't have an audio mixer - all the mixing is done in the software.

Pioneer isn't in the market of making devices such as what I've linked.

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