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CDJ-2000 pitch is going sky high

Hi

I'm a DJ that spins house/electro and R&B most of the time. House and Electro I mix at 131 bpm.

But when I want add some R and B songs to it (most of the R&B songs are 60 - 160 bpm) then my cdj's go out of line.

He can't handle the different bpm's. Sow when I go back to the house/electro he thinks that 131 (is pitched up above)

Normally the 131 bpm is in the middle.

Sow when I want to mix to a house/electro song again I have to put the pitch high above. But that's not normal.

This video shows my problem perfectly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnsUQGmkC7I

I hope someone can help my problem. All my cdj firmware's are updated to v4.04.

Greetings.

Kevin Verdoodt

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@Kevin > Are you pre-analysing your tracks with rekordbox?

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I use Serato (2.3) I always mix on INT sow the cdj's are linked. Mastertempo on 16x

CDJ's firmware v4.04

I never use Rexordbox. The only thing I use is "MixMeister BPM Analyzer" to analyze the bpm of my songs. But that has nothing to do with it.

When I mix and played like one hour electro house on 131 bpm and I switch to RnB tracks first I start of with slow songs on 60-100 bpm. Then I move on to huge hip hop tracks that are like 160 bpm. And here it gets messy. When I want to go back to electro/house he still thinks you got the last track placed sow the bpm of 131 is somewhere upstairs.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auFRPBKN7EE

This shows my problem perfectly. 2 same tracks (turbulence by LaidBack Luke) on the right cdj the pitch is 100% perfect and on the right the track is loaded but the player still thinks the pitch from something else...

If I would spin 8hours electro/house that are 125bpm to 130 I won't have any problem....

But when I mix R&B, Dubstep, Drum & Bass, Moombahton, ... that has bpms from 60 till 160 (range) then one of the players goes wrong.

As you can see on the video ;). I hope you guy's can help me. Because this bug is killing me :).

Greetings!

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@Sigius I just hope they can add the fix in v4.05

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 As I see the the zero point of the pitch is lost and now it is not on the center but somewhere else.

Does your player do the same thing when you turn on CDJ and play from CD? Does the zero point of the pitch is on the center of the pitch slider?

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yeah, this could be the way Serato is messing with the MIDI/HID, may not be a Pioneer issue, Like segius says, Doe this happen if you play a cd or a track from a usb drive leaving sera to out of the mix? Also, can you downgrade to 2.2, maybe it's a bug in sera to 2.3

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Kevin, I would post your issue on seratos help forum also just so you have answers from both sides to see if anyone else can duplicate the issue

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The problem was already there in serato 2.2 & when I saw the update of serato 2.3 I was like please let it be fixed.

But it stays. Well a buddy of mine was here I think 2weeks ago and he was mixing with cd's that time.

He had the same problem. But I will post it also on the Serato forum.

Thanks for the replies!

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gotcha, so yeah, most likely a deck issue if you had the issue mixing cd's

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Hello Kevin.

I wanna ask, is this happening in left CDJ deck or is it also happening in the right one?? 

Also, why do you have MT on since you play in HID mode and Serato? I don't use Serato, so I don't know. Serato doesn't have MT ??

 

To me, if you try to play CDs or even better if you try analyse in Rekord Box for once and export in USB and same thing happens,

then definitely your CDJ2000 pitch is crap and I think you should return it back and claim a new one or at least to be fixed.

Tace care and good luck :))

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Serato does have MT, It is called "Key Lock", When using HID mode, you would press MT on the cdj to enable key lock in serato, If you are using a control cd and no HID, then you would leave MT off on the 2000 but click on it in serato to enable it

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In Traktor MT is Key lock, too ;)

If I understood well, Kevin is using cdj2000 as a controller for each deck in Serato with out using a sound card.

I have never used my cdj2000s in HID mode with RB or any other program so I don't really know.

If I wanna play music using Traktor, I have a NI X1 controller + audio 8 + mixer. I used to play with control cds with mk3s, but never did with cdj2000.

I really enjoy playing using a USB stick and Link,  after I analyse in RB. 

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@Dream Treez serato in HID mode is like playing with cd's... You don't have to watch your serato screen anymore

You don't need time code cd's. I really love mixing this way. I also see on the top of my cdj screen the artist, bpm & the bpm interest me a lot ;).

Because that's one of the main reasons I have to watch on my laptop.

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I'm mixing this Friday. I will check it out then ;).

My job is killing me at this very moment. Sow Friday/Saturday I will have an update ;).

Gone try mixing with Serato & when the problem comes along.

I'm gone mix with cd's and see if the problem is towards serato or the pioneer cdj 2000

Grtz & cu friday ;).

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Sow I tried.

(1) when I have this problem. To try using cd's afterwards.

(2) to pitch in Serato

both solutions didn't fixed anything....

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Kevin, you should try play with CDs or USB before the problem occurs.  

If same thing happens while you play CDs or USB then your CDJ2000s need to be fixed.

If not then the problem occurs while you use Serato, so you will know that CDJs are ok.

I asked you before but you didn't  answer.. Is this pitch problem happening to both CDJs of yours ??

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It's the same. usb, cd's, serato ....

I hope pioneer can help me with this ;)

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When I bought the cdj's 2000 (2x of them) :: firmware 3.2 everything was fine.

Upgrading to firmware 4.2 the problems started. When I was mixing true different genre's of music (bpm's) my cdj's pitch went sky high.

I upgraded them to the new firmware 4.5 and 1 of the CDJ's is perfect now. I got no problems with that what so ever.

Only the other one is still going absolutely wrong...

I have this problem with CD/USB/Serato... so again I have this with or without Serato.

I think the problem lies with the firmware. The only thing you can do is downgrade it (reboot it). When the settings are perfect (pitch) then upgrade it to 4.5 and I think then will the problem be solved. That's what I did with the other CDJ and it is functioning nice now.

So my guess is that the problem is situated on the CDJ-2000.

Can I downgrade the firmware from the CDJ-2000 somehow?

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@Kevin > Sorry but CDJ's are not intended to be downgraded.

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If the problem exists with CDs as well as the HID source, the problem is the pitch fader and you should have the unit serviced.

If the problem ONLY exists within Scratch Live, the problem could exist elsewhere.

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