[SOLVED] Key Notation Issue Just Being Ignored?

I've been using Camelot notation/mixed in key with rekordbox/nexus since they came out with absolutely no issues.

I'm not sure what you're doing wrong.

Ps, there's no 'war' with mixed in key, they just own the copyright on the Camelot system. Even traktors new key detection can't use it, they've used their own system.

Here are some threads that discuss the issue:

http://forums.pioneerdj.com/entries/22620242-Key-Issue-on-Nexus-Decks

http://forums.pioneerdj.com/entries/22000841-Feature-Request-Camelot-Key-Notation

You can't SORT by Camelot Key notation.  If you are able to - PLEASE elaborate on how you are able to get around what nobody else has been able to.

Just order your playlist by key in rekordbox and right click the column to re number. Your tracks will then appear in key order on your USB, effectively sorting by Camelot key.
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You can also sort any playlist, at any time directly on the Cdj, open a playlist, hit menu and click sort, scroll down to key and click the rotary. Your playlist will then be sorted by Camelot notation.
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With the latest firmware the traffic light system works with MIK data showing harmonically compatible tracks in green which I think works much better than a 'sort' as I think it restricts your choices much less.

I'm sure there's other ways to work with keys too, its hardly the show stopper you describe.

Put the mik value in comments field, then you can't sort by it at any stage - simple

If these 4 ways of sorting via Camelot key don't cover what you're trying to do Tim then let me know.

I appreciate your desire to help but no, none of these 4 solutions solve the problem...

Solution 1 - Use playlists to order by key?  This breaks all of my playlists.  So I am left to choose between having usable playlists OR using camelot key notation.  Not ideal.  And I would have to manually go through all of my thousands of tracks and put them into playlists in the right order of key?  I mean I guess that would work but it's not a good solution at all.

Solution 2 - It does NOT sort by camelot key unless you are using older firmware.  Firmware that is NOT compatible with the CDJ-2000 Nexus since it requires traffic light system.  Pioneer uses the camelot key notation correlations and switches the keys I have tagged to the regular key notation when it displays.  As people in the other threads have pointed out, this seems to use the camelot key notation much more so than just displaying the keys I already entered into my tags.  As long as Rekordbox isn't adding these keys, I don't see the licensing problem.  The MiK software is being used how it is supposed to.

Solution 3 - Use traffic light system and NOT camelot key notation.  That was the whole point of those threads and my frustration - not everybody thinks the traffic light system is an improvement.  I am one of those people.  I want to be able to sort by camelot key using the keys I have tagged in my files.

Solution 4 - Sorting by comments field would be fine if that were an option.  Unfortunately it is NOT one of the sortable fields when browsing using rekordbox.

Again I appreciate your comments and insight but I just want the system to work how it used to with the non-nexus CDJ-2000s before the traffic light system.  I would never have upgraded my decks had I known they would do this.  I don't understand how it can be a licensing issue to sort by the key values I have added to my songs tags using the MiK software.  This is exactly how MiK works with all of the other DJ software programs available.  If Traktor and Serato, etc, started doing this MiK would go out of business because no one would be able to leverage what it offers.  Pioneer advertised these decks to be the replacement for the DVS systems but this lacking feature IS a show stopper IMO.

Please Pioneer come out with a fix.

tim, solution 2 DOES work, i use it all the time and just double checked it. i'm using the latest firmware - it absolutely sorts by camelot key, exactly like the 2000mk1 did which i also owned.

i shot a quick video (unfortunately it's rotated by 90 degrees but you get the deal) - is this not what you want to do? the playlist is originally sorted by BPM, then i switch the sort to key - all camelot.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6265738/IMG_0253.MOV

i'm not sure what you mean about switching keys, rekordbox just reads what is written in the key field as far as i know.

regarding solution 3, you miss my point - traffic light WORKS with the camelot system, it makes suggestions based on 5A 6A 6B etc. i have not let rekordbox scan the key of my files, only mixed in key.

also, solution 1 works with all of your existing playlists and takes 2 clicks per playlist to do. you don't have to manually redo anything.

@ tim - you can definitely sort by comment on the cdjs whether using memory cards etc or link with rekordbox. I do it...

"and apparently instructing moderators on the forums to stop people from talking about it"

We've requested it. If we heard some feedback, we'd provide it.

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"Pioneer went out of their way to piss of DJs everywhere"

.... by providing a Standard Notation option - which has been in existence long before Camelot Notation. And is just as easy to use.

"At least I guess I will earn some money back by trading in the Piocrap for A&H."

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Frustrations aside, shouting your head off isn't going to get you any help.