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NAMM disappointment for Toraiz owners

I must admit that I'm a little disappointed with the NAMM release. The only new thing is copy and pasting of scenes, whilst a very welcome addition, it is frustrating that they added a special midi feature for their new synth but didn't address the glaring midi bugs / omissions (I suppose they got to make more money)!

I also thought they would have added undo and copy / paste trigs.

I know they mentioned that they are listening to the forum but no specifics at all are given, so overall I am quite disappointed.

Fingers crossed for the future whatever that might bring to the Toraiz.

Simon Fine

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agree with you... Also they disappointed with no FX 2 for individual TRACK. What are they waiting for? Thats a basis! Combination of more fx per track will bring up this sampler to another profi level.

Pioneer please add more FX like TAPE ECHO, AUTOPAN and something like STRETCHER/SHUFFLER (let the Illformed Glitch VST be inspiration for you).

Phunk Jamz (Phunk Jamz Recordings) 0 votes
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Yeah, I understand that Pioneer is growing an infrastructure by releasing that MonoSynth with extra connectivity/control from the Toraiz. If the new MPC were not being released right now, it might seem a whole lot cooler for a lot of people but it really is kind of a miss in my opinion. 

I am disappointed with the Toraiz press release regarding updates. I understand sharing product roadmap can be a bit risky but really, as long as there are some disclaimers that some dates for some features are fluid and could change then why not share a general direction?  My main pieces of gear are a decently large Buchla 200e modular, some outboard effects and I am looking for one other piece of gear to flesh out what I can't do with Buchla (mainly samples for Drums, Pads and Atmospheres, etc). I do utilize Midi with my Buchla,  but my music is not 4/4 always so I know I am not the average user of this piece of gear.  I would love to stay with the Toraiz but vague responses about watching the forum and FB does not inspire hope.

Guess I am going to give MPC Live a shot (Wish I could afford to keep both but my nasty modular habit has hurt my gear fund).

Dustin Colyer 0 votes
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The only thing I can remember from your post above is...... BUCHLA :)

 

Though, I will make do with my modest eurorack :)

 

I am going to hold onto my Toraiz and see how things develop. It's worth waiting 3-6 months to see how the MPC Live / X rolls out - could be buggy, bad timing etc.

Simon Fine 0 votes
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LOL, Buchla is fun! I have a full 24 space case (mostly 200e but a few clones/3rd party modules). I love Euro, just don't have any. In fact, I love all Modulars: Have had Euro, Serge, Modcan A, a Fenix 2 and of course Buchla.  Wish I could keep them all...

 

I would generally do the same thing regarding waiting to see how the MPCs roll out but I am within my return period on the Toraiz and I would hate to lose money and have to deal with the hassle of selling 2nd hand so that I can scoop an MPC. 

Dustin Colyer 0 votes
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Serge user here!! Was hoping for a bit more out of the sequencer in terms of timing and per track options beyond 4/4.. hoping that the "AS-1" midi track can be used for any midi instrument. Instead we get sharing scenes. Who really wanted that???

RECORDING MIDI IN! Please please

srmaietta 0 votes
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Serge, buchla, and here I was thinking I was sophisticated with my plain old eurorack :)

I'm not sure the midi side of things will ever get that detailed. That's why I picked up a Squarp pyramid a few days ago. Very good piece of kit.

I am still surprised that you can't record midi trigs from an external midi device. Such an oversight, which has been mentioned multiple times and acknowledged by pioneer

Simon Fine 0 votes
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I've always seen the Toraiz as more of a performance/DJ type tool that most definitely caters to the 4/4 "dance" market. While I certainly would appreciate the features that are there being more fleshed out and the addition of some other must haves, I do not want the SP-16 to lose its simplicity and workflow by trying to become an all in one studio centerpiece. I want it to play samples in time with the rest of my gear, sound good and be fun to play/intuitive.

Midnight Music Club 0 votes
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^ agreed, but, as you say, let's get some of the basic functions in the box please :)

Simon Fine 0 votes