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[SOLVED] DDJ ERGO V Mic Latency

The Latency on the mic is absolutely ridiculous. Is this something that could be fixed with a firmware update or just a hardware limitation, trying to mc over a tune is impossible, also the volume seems very low on the mic unless u turn master volume up pretty loud.

 

Other than that im in love with the controller!

Stephen Brady

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@Stephen > There is also a "Volume" control on the back of the DDJ-ERGO for the Mic Input. Could you please double check this level and increase it if necessary. Then see if it improves your Mic volume?

I'm not sure about a latency issue with the Mic Input. I've haven't heard of that... Are you sure you don't have the Mic input selected to a deck and possibly have an effect on it or something odd?

Have to see what Gavin or Pulse come up with on it since they have the DDJ-ERGO and can test it out.

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@Foster

I have tried the volume on the back but in relation to the music, if i am mixing at a low volume i can barely hear the mic (turn it up a fair bit and its fine) just doesnt seem to be prominent enough at low volume... it could possibly be due to volume combinations (high gain of track, low master volume) i'll recheck again when i can (its 7.30am lol)

Most importantly the delay/latency... I was using serato dj intro at the time and as far as im aware you cant assign effects to the mic using that (can u with any software?) it just seemed to be delayed upon playback... as i said to try and mc on beat was impossible due to this.

 

Thanks for the response

 

Stephen

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@Stephan > lol sounds good. Yeah give the back volume a boost and if needed increase the top level too.

Using different software could have different results unfortunately.

Yes, you can assign the "Aux" input and "Mic" input to a deck (at least in VDJ). Then you can use some of the mixer and effect functions on top of the input.

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@Foster

 

Oh nice i might have to have a play around with assigning the mic to a deck :D get some nice eq settings :D. guess ill have to get used to using the master more so than the gains... means lowering my recording levels as i usually onitor them for streaming.

Anyway heres to hoping someone can clarify about the mic latency and if its fixable.

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@Stephen > Sorry, but I'm still stumped this is happening. I don't know why it would be doing that.

I take it you're still having problems with it and can replicate it every time you use the mic?

@Raymond > Is your problem also regarding Mic and a latency issue similar to Stephen?

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@Foster > Yes this problem is replicatable every time, irrespective of laptop or desktop configuration. It makes the mic useless, to the point that i am considering returning the product now, just not sure how the shop is going to respond to this issue.

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Yes my problem is with the mic delay. The Ergo is a good bit of kit but you could not gig with it if you uses the mic alot.

I will be sending it back to the shop..

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I'm really sorry to hear that guys. That's really unfortunate and odd because I don't know what could cause it to do that.

Would one of you possible be able to make a quick video so I could hear it? 

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Im not sure how u would see it in the video. best way to describe it is you hear yourself talking from the speakers around 1/2 to 1 second after you actually talk, so if you was to say AH on beat 1 of a track it would play through the speakers on beat 2 or 3.

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The latency is due to the fact the mic audio input goes into the software and back out.  The higher the latency settings in your software, the more of a delay the audio has between you speaking into the mic and the sound coming out of the speakers.

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Hi all, I to have been having issues with mic latency. I have adjusted the asio driver parameters as suggested to no avail. As an old school DJ I like the banter over the mic but I agree it is totally useless, had I have known this before purchase I would have looked at an alternative product. there are reports on some forums that the T1 suffers from the same problem however the S1 doesn't because it has a pass thru switch so that the mic audio is routed straight through to the output bypassing the laptop hence no latency. I can't see how this problem can be reolved with a firmware fix as it appears to be a hardware issue. I hope Pioneer are monitoring these forums and can come up with a solution to date tech department state they have not had any reports of this problem however their are plenty of reports if you search on google,  the retailer wasn't helpful at all where I purchased mine and they are not prepaired to take it back for credit against another controller (s1) and for me to pay the difference. Only solution I can think of is to purchase a seperate mixer for mics or sell it on ebay!  for the record is there anyone else having the same problem with delay on mic circuit if so please add to this thread then perhaps if there are enough reports Pioneer will look into it. Not a happy chappy  :-(

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@SoundinMotion > We have reported this to the engineers who are investigating the comments.

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Update, Today managed to spend some time on this issue and although I have a fairly high spec Toshiba laptop I thought I would give it a go on my Sony Vaio after adjusting the ASIO settings as suggested by Atomix (VDJ7) the delay noticeably improved however I noticed a tick box on the ASIO settings wthin VDJ7 under Config , sound setup , Sound Card, ASIO DRIVERS select ultra-latency setting and tick the box  PERFECT!!!!

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@SoundinMotion > Glad you got it working! Thanks for updating the thread. :)

Is this only available in VDJ7 though, and not LE which ships with the ERGO?  

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Correct; see below for the Mac windows...

This is LE:

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This is Pro, showing the Performances tab:

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Note the latency setting is currently Auto, adjust this if you are having problems with the delay on the mic; lower is better but if you have audio drop-outs, move it up until they disappear.

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I just tested this on my Windows7 machine as well and the key to getting the least mic delay is to set your latency as LOW as possible under the ASIO settings; I have mine set to 64 samples / 1ms at 24 bit depth.  Without Ultra-Latency ASIO checked, it sounds like it's being run through the lawnmower, but tick the box and I have no problems with audio playing from all four decks.  

In case you're wondering, my system specs are - Core2Duo 6600 @ 2.4GHz, 3GB RAM on Win7-32.

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Hi guys, just an update. I thought I had this mic latency nailed however when doing voice overs it is back ;-(  but I have now eliminated it completely.

Solution.  I purchased a cheap 2 channel USB powered mixer took the output of the ergo to the line input of the mixer and used the mic channel on the mixer instead of the ergo. (Output of new  2 channel mixer to powee amp. The mic channel on the mixer I purchased has it's own tone controls for the mic and the result is absolutely perfect. The best part is the mixer brand new is only £36 ! well worth the outlay. I personally don't think there will be a way to reduce mic latency to zero using your laptop because of trying to reduce buffering to zero without causing distortion however this does not deter the quality and performance of the DDJ ERGO and it's capabilities to me it was money well spent. Shame I'm an old school DJ that likes to hear his own voice over the mic but for those old school wedding DJ's that need a mic the additional mixer is a solution.

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i have the ddj ergo pioneers and the mic is pissing me off it has a delay some one pleaSE HELP ME

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i have the ddj ergo pioneers and the mic is pissing me off it has a delay some one pleaSE HELP ME

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Hi Stuart,

I was just as frustrated as you however my solution above works well (2 posts above yours)  NO LATENCY AT ALL  just a cheap Behringer mixer £36 insert your mic into that and it is totally isolated from Ergo no latency, sounds superb and even has its own tone controls for the mic circuit :-)

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I have the same mic delay on DDJ ERGO with virtual dj pro. I have adjusted to no end. Still have latency. I belive I will try to purchase a cheap mixer to run mics as suggested by soundinmotion. By the way I use my mixer to karaoke. Using an external hard drive to retrieve my songs I have delay problems with karaoke. The beats or either to fast or to slow. I had so many complaints within the first 3 songs of karaoke between the mic delay and the song delay, I shut it down and pulled out my old school mixer which I used to use. I'm glad I keep back ups. Music plays fine.

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Hey guys I found a good work around. I used a splitter and ran one of my outputs through a korg kaoss pad. Then I hooked my mic up to the kaoss pad not only did I get great sound from the mic I was able to add effects to it!

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hey... there a delay from my ddj-ergo master outputs....means i can't use master output as a monitor also because the speakers gonna be delayed ..means my headphone and output speakers will not be in the same beat ...

so is that normal or something going wrong ??

regards..MayloMa

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Hello.

I Have a pioneer Ddj Ergo V and im using virtual Dj 8 and when i try to connect a mim, the sound is awfull and with  delay.

i've tried with a normal Mic and the sound is so low that i have to put master sound almost maximum.

With a Wireless radio Mic, the sound quality is better but theres delay on the sound.

 

Anyone knows a fix for this.

I don't think that the problem is entirely of Virtual Dj

 

Best regards

Miguel Filipe Paulino de Sousa Veiga 0 votes
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