S1 - Cross Fader Control (small gap)

@Justin > I'm a little confused by your question. Could you please explain it a little more?

The crossfader allows no sound on 1 side, then when you move it a millimetre or so, then there is sound?

It kinda sounds correct from the description you provided.

However, if I am misunderstanding what you mean and there is an issue with the crossfader options, this would be due to the ITCH software and not the DDJ-S1 hardware unfortunately. This is because the DDJ-S1 is only a controller and uses the softwares functions and capabilities.

Hey Foster, thanks for the reply.

I actually recorded a video to show what I mean by gap.

Here is the link to better explain:

http://youtu.be/S937UWbjUnA

@Justin > Thanks for the video, it really helped show what you meant exactly. :)

Are you wanting it to play right up until the fader was just before touching the end, then cut out when pushed right against the side?

I'm not sure if that's how you would like it to work, but that's the exact same as on my DJM-900 with the sharpest setting set for the crossfader. I'm pretty sure it's the same for the DJM-800 and all Pioneer mixers. (Not 100% sure because I don't normally use the crossfader let alone on the sharpest setting)

I want it to function like my old Denon DNX1500, DJM600 and most other mixers. There is no gap on the sharpest curve - the sound is immediately on when the fader is moved a fraction

@Justin > Sorry but I think that's how it's going to work because it's based on the software. The controller is only sending signals to the software which then control the music.

If there are mappings that you can edit, you might be able to change the value to cut it closer to the end, but that is just a guess.

Thanks Foster.

Do you work for Pioneer or is this just your opinion?

See I view this more as a Pioneer issue rather than a Serato issue as the Pioneer controller sends the signal to output the sound when the cross fader reaches a certain point.

For me, that point is too far and needs to be adjusted closer to the fully closed point of the fader.

I would like to know if everyones DDJ has that same distance of play before the sound kicks in.

@Justin > I believe I understand what you mean. I'm not exactly sure on this matter as I do not have a DDJ-S1, but I am very certain that is how the cross fader is suppose to work. Double check that it does the same thing on both sides and you will be able to tell if it's consistent. The DJM-900 reacts the same way on both sides and on all cross fader curves, so I'm confident this is correct.

Also, if you notice how far the crossfader actually goes to one side, it is only to match the last white line. The additional "gap" is not actually travelled. Yes the space (fader slot) continues past the white lines, but that space is not included in the crossfader length. If you closely follow where the crossfader starts moving to where the music can be heard, it is actually just under 1/2 a bar. One bar being the distance from 1 white line to the next. 

In my opinion, I do not see it as that far a distance, but I have never used a cross fader with the results you are looking for. I've used the DJM-600, but didn't use the cross fader for the same purposes.

Does it affect your DJ'ing by needing to move the cross fader as far as the S1 requires you to?

Thanks Foster.

I have logged a similar thread on Serato's website. Apparently only the scratch specific 707 and 909 mixer from Pioneer don't have this gap.

Foster, I am assuming you DJ house/trance music. I also play house and this gap does not impact my mixing.

However I also play hip hop and any gap in the cross fader will have a major impact on scratching and crabbing.

@Justin > The controller isn't designed as a scratch / turntablist device and as such, there is what's referred to as "fader lag".  You could certainly void your warranty and open the controller up to modify the crossfader, adding a plastic shim to either end of the travel so as to reduce the lag distance, or simply adapt to the gap.