The Pitch & The Ghost

This is normal when your pitch slider is not quite on one value.

I moved the pitch back to -0.02% and although its a small move still needs a moving to go back to -0.02! So how come it came by itself back to 0.00% again???

Let me try to digest this again: Pitch variating tempo by itself normal????????????? O.o

Yes. Given that the fader has 600 divisions along the entire length of the fader (50 per percent x 6% range x 2 for +/- ranges), I'd suggest it's VERY likely you'll miss your intended spot or accidentally bridge two points.

I think I said I did move the pitch back... If there is NO phisical action on the pitch slider tempo SHOULDN'T change also. I never ever saw something like that happening in any other hardware in my entire dj career!!!!

I never said anything about you moving it either -- simply that you positioned the fader between to contact points.  Even if it was solid for 2 minutes, minute changes in temperature or a slight vibration could cause the fader to all-of-a-sudden measure a different value.

So is this an another feature of cdjs 2000????? Being sensitive to sound vibrations, temperature and god knows what else? Pretty proper for club environments.... and seriously, I never ever had that on my previous model of pioneer cdjs...

Sorry for adding this to my post but.. seriously.. its a shame how you people here treat problems djs have with this gear. This kind of stuff should be straight directed to Pioneer engineers for tests and verifications cause it is burning the brands name. I know a lot of dj mates that talk different things about the 2ks and its getting louder and louder. I am not proud of having them anymore and for the price all of us did pay we should have a serious feedback from Pioneer since what they offer when selling is what must be in the final product.

Just trying to fightback the feedback from djs all over the world who, like me, always loved and trusted on Pioneer products with the intention of protecting the brand and a faulty product (like you guys do it all the time) instead of addressing the issues to be corrected and fixed (or just judging for yourselfs the issue is high priority or not like I saw here @ the forum before) is not the right thing to do. You moderators here have the big responsability and the trust of Pioneer to let them know about the problems so they can work them out. Its been too long since the release of this product and maybe time to change your behaviour on these matters before its too late... if its not already. I say that because having a loyal consumer like myself thinking about selling his hardware can't be a good thing.. And I bet this is also happening somewhere else Pulse and not just with me. You should let Pioneer let know about this instead of just blocking the matter... But again, just my oppinion. Maybe you think different...

@Stroboscope > Should every question on the forums be directed to the engineers?  If it were, we'd be sending them questions about why someone can't figure out how to connect their faderstarts or how rekordbox is rejecting their video files.  The moderators are here to act as a first-layer of filtering and communication to the engineering teams.  We're not paid, we're all here on our own time and have no access to Pioneer's support network (which is why you'll occasionally see us suggesting people use the tech support contacts).  We DO, however, have direct access to the engineers of the hardware and software, something that most other support sites do not.

Any post that we can't immediately answer or drill down to solve with a bit of good ol' fashioned troubleshooting is sent along to the engineers for further assistance.  We're not here to argue with you about the problems or deny that they exist.  Just because someone reports a problem on one player and it hasn't happened on 10,000 other players doesn't mean it's not a problem.  I understand the frustration of having a product that doesn't do what you expect it to do, when you expect it to do it; I'm a DJ and customer as well.

I'm not blocking the matter, I'm giving you an explanation of the situation from my experience.  And here's what I can tell you about this specific issue...

If you feel like sending your CDJs to a repair centre, it's going to cost you to ship the units there.  Support will test them and likely find that there's no problem with the players, as a result, charging you for the service time, then shipping them back.  The whole routine will likely take a few weeks, in which time you'll not only be without your players, but will become increasingly frustrated at the situation.

Or, you can trust in what I've told you that what you're experiencing is perfectly normal and a trait of the players.  And yes, you may not have noticed it, but it has happened with all CDJs since 1995.  It doesn't happen all the time, it's just those rare cases where you manage to hit the bridge point between the contacts on the slider.  And if you look at the math, even a fluctuating value of 0.02% in the pitch is not going to cause a trainwreck in your mix -- chances are you weren't 100% bang-on the percentage needed for a perfect beatmatch anyhow, so the fact that it varied isn't the worst situation.

Again, I'm not trying to tell you that you're wrong, but offering my opinion as a Pioneer representative who has used Pioneer equipment for 18 years and has been working with Pioneer for 12.

K man.. I quit!

Great, I'll mark this as resolved.

I've seen this problem as well - random minor tempo fluctuations, particularly with the +6% slider setting. Never saw this problem ever on the 1000s, so while I understand what pulse is saying, I think there is a problem on the slider calibration that causes it to be overly sensitive.

To be honest it's not a big deal, I'm just a little disappointed after the $$$$ you pay for these. 

Perhaps the 1000 was the problem and it just wasn't sensitive enough.