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[SOLVED] Using Traktor HID & Serato HID at the same time

Hey all, I am wondering if there is an easy way to use both Traktor and Serato in HID mode on CDJ 2000's. Me and another DJ are going to be switching off every hour or so and we are using Traktor and Serato respectively. I was curious as to know if there is an easy transition between the two. Thanks for any and all help!

Luke Ryan

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Pioneer DJM-900Nexus does both in HID. The SRT means it adds a Serato sound card so SDJ can be used and the 900 also has full Nexus capabilities so works the same was as the 900 Nexus did. Just remember Traktor lets you use pretty much anything as a sound card.................... sounds desperate lol. In terms of the HID you can only have the CDJ-2000's connected to either Traktor OR SDJ at one time. NOT BOTH sorry.

Deejay Dave 0 votes
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With serato you must have a serato audio card, so the cdjs would act as controller only. With traktor you can use them as audio card as well.

If you use the cdjs as audio cards in traktor you need to have them connected *both* to the usb before starting the whole thing, this means while switching from serato to traktor you would need to unplug both cdjs from serato before going to traktor. Therefore you need to have some music on CDs or USB sticks to cover the few minutes that you need to move the setup between traktor and serato.

If you use an external audio card also with traktor then you could unplug one cdj only and you won't need to bridge the gap with cds/usb sticks.

Since you say you would switch once every hour, I see the whole thing as potentially dangerous, you could disrupt the setup and stop the music.

I'd suggest to avoid that. If the club has cdjs and turntables I'd rather decide that one of you always stays on the cdjs and the other on the turntables so you don't need to switch and reconfigure everything. Otherwise one of the two can learn to use the other software, put all the music on one of the two computers and it's done :)

Julia O 0 votes
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Not gonna lie. The girl above me kinda doesn't know what she is talking about. When using the CDJ's as HID with Serato (DJ or SSL) they are connected via USB to the laptop. When using them with HID with Traktor they are connected via USB to the laptop. When using them as sound cards they are connected via USB to tha laptop (traktor only). When using them with Serato DJ and the DJM-900SRT as the sound card they must still be connected via USB to the laptop.

 

The point of the story. No matter what software you want to use the CDJ's as HID controllers they are both connected via USB to the laptop.

 

NOW when switching from Traktor to Serato you DO NOT need to switch anything whether you are using DJM-900SRT or a SL box. If you are using a SL box (SSL now or SDJ come Dec 2013) you have the CDJ's connected to the laptop via USB and the SL box as the sound card. You then have the option when switching to Traktor of using the DJM-900Nexus (or SRT) as the sound card OR the CDJ's as the sound card. Either way you keep them connected to the laptop. The only difference is when you use the CDJ's as the sound card you must have RCA's from the CDJ's to the mixer

 

SO Best & easiest way like I said from the start is using the DJM-900SRT in which the SRT is used as the sound card for Traktor & SDJ at the same time. You can only use the CDJ's with HID for either Traktor OR SDJ> not both at the same time. This is speaking from experience in which I have done it and can show you at any time via video how easy this is done and Trust me she is wrong about disconnecting the CDJ's from the laptop at ANY time for ANY reason. Even IF you use the CDJ's as the sound cards for Traktor and an external SL box as the sound card for Serato you still keep every RCA the same way as long as your mixer has enough inputs. Tell me what gear you have and I can tell you the easiest way to connect everything and the easiest transition n between. If you have NOT purchased a mixer yet and want the easiest transition.................... the SRt is the ONLY mixer that supports ALL software be it Rekordbx, Serato, Traktor, Rekordbox, mixvibes, etc.

Deejay Dave 0 votes
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Hi dave thank you for your "friendly" comments done without a complete understanding of what the original posters might need to know, and why I answer like this, and possibly done with a bit of sexism (you know girls should stay at home cooking and stay away from electronics and dj booths...it's a manly thing, testosterone blah blah...but let's forget about it and let's not derail the topic).

A few considerations...

Luke doesn't say whether he has or not a 900srt mixer, it seems to me by reading the message that they are going to play in some club and switch between the two of them, so it's reasonable to assume that the club doesn't have that srt mixer, because it's a quite new product, because many clubs use other brands of mixers and so on. Answering him to buy that mixer is probably not going to help him much unless he's on the market for a new mixer but he doesn't say that.

Second consideration: the message is about two different djs using two different djing programs, so it's reasonable for me to assume that they are also using *two different laptops*, therefore I think about plugging/unplugging USB cables from the cdjs to the laptops as it happens normally when two different djs change at the decks, and suggesting to use only one laptop with only one software to make their life easier, or to use another device (CDs, USB/SD memories) to bridge the gap when changing laptops.

Julia O 0 votes
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Thank you both for responding to my question. Soon after I posted this I realized the easiest way to solve the problem. We were using a regular DJM-900 Nexus with two different laptops and the other DJ has an SSL Box. So I ended up using the Nexus as my soundcard and he ended up using the SSL Box as his soundcard and I ended up using the CDJ's in HID while he used timecoded CD's. All that was needed to do when we were switching was hit either the "Link" button or the "CD" button and it was perfect. The only issue I ran into was that on one of the CDJ's after the other DJ had already used it in "CD" mode, whenever I would hit "Link" to get it back to HID mode it wouldn't respond so I basically had to control Deck A internally on my laptop. Any thoughts on how to fix that for next time?

Luke Ryan 0 votes
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While I didn't mean to sound sexist nor do I think I do in looking back I will admit to coming off a little harsh. I will agree that your most recent response was both correct and well thought out. In defense to what I said just remember I was only responding to your  statement of "while switching from serato to traktor you would need to unplug both cdjs from serato before going to traktor". Now I understand he may (and in fact does use two different laptops but that is in no way what you were saying here. You were implying that some how has his CDJ's connected to his Serato (not sure how that would even work as it gets connected to a laptop not Serato itself). furthermore I was kind of hoping He knew that if he was using a different laptop there would be some wire changing.......................... I mean ........................... who wouldn't? I thought it was pretty safe to assume he was talking about the same laptop as if you had two different laptops with one running Serato the other Traktor wouldn't it be kind of obvious as to how this would be handled? Then again I was proven wrong as that is in fact what he was asking.

 

The solution you came up with Luke would seem the best but there is a know issue and you ran into it I see. The switching from CD to HID back & forth leads to the issue you see yourself. As for your original question I am sure you know by now there is no way to have the CDJ's connected to two different laptops at the same time.

Deejay Dave 0 votes
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Just out of curiosity as so I don't repeat my foul was there ANY other comment, word, statement, accusation etc. that would lead you to your assessment other than the word girl? I just figured short of using your name it was the most accurate way to present who I was referring to. I don't normally run into any issues when claiming a female to be a girl.

Deejay Dave 0 votes
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Is there any way to fix the issue that I ran into? I tried shutting down the CDJ and turning it on again and it still wouldn't switch back...

Luke Ryan 0 votes
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In my experience it has been software related. I do remember seeing a thread on a work around but in terms of a an actual fix. I am not 100% sure. I do apologize but have limited knowledge on this. I in fact do exactly as I suggested and use the SRT with Serato & Traktor so am able to use HID with bith. I understand the need in your situation for the need for both.

Deejay Dave 0 votes
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@Luke > Disconnect the USB cable when you reset the CDJ and then re-connect again.

Gavin 0 votes
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