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Tracks not syncing even with quantize and sync button on!

So even with the new update, tracks are not beat matched even with the SYNC and quantize buttons on. Its so frustrating! All my tracks are analyzed and the beat grids are set up perfect as i go through each one to make sure. The thing is that it doesn't happen with every track but it does for most of them. Honestly when is Pioneer going to fix this issue! Also, when i have a track at 140 for example and another at 138, the track goes off beat every 6-8 seconds even if the BPMs are set the same on both decks. I have to say that Rekordbox is one of the worst softwares ive used. Ive used others in the past and none have these issues. Pioneer has a long way to go with this software...

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Nobody's sticking anything in the sand. I mix on rekordbox all the time and don't have these issues using a wide variety of tracks (video and audio, all different genres), and different controllers / CDJs.

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Sounds odd, but try mixing in Vertical View mode (not Horizontal), I find I can get tracks far tighter in the mix with this using 6% pitch - Loops still a little hit and miss on some tracks but getting there.

Funny that this only happens with Pioneer Controller units and RBDJ... not using RB analysed tracks and CDJs. Pioneer find it easier to just stick their head in the sand with this right now, so wager they are working on a fix and then will pipe up once it is fixed and make out that everyone was imagining it :D

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Kvaldini 0 votes
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Sounds strange but do you find that this problem sometimes happens with your tracks then sometimes it doesn't, almost as if the software just decides to work properly as and when,despite the analysing been abysmal I even adjusted some beatgrids perfectly and it still happened even with sync on,had to hold myself back from wacking it,had no problems with cdjs USB ,srato controllers then there is this trash.

Chris Longman 0 votes
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stop the track and playing it again seems to fix it.  but it is a HUGE pain in the ass. 

DJphasim 0 votes
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Very odd.. no surprise that it works 'perfectly' for Pulse. Everytime. Across every format :D  despite many other people facing the issues?

Guess we sit tight as it cannot take too long for RBDJ to catch up with Serato etc.

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rekordbox really sucks for visual beat matching. once i stopped trying and just used my ears this problem disappeared. their problem to me, looks to be that the waveform and beatgrid dont resize when bpm is changed, so when you try and visually beatmatch you cant fully line up the grids.

Link Woofhouse 0 votes
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happens to me also. I can sync 2 tracks and its fine. 5 minutes later the same 2 tracks will not sync even though nothing has changed. frustrating

lorraine 0 votes
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Happened yesterday for me also. It was my second live gig with Rekordbox. I had played continuously for about 4 hours untill the songs didn't quantize anymore. First I noticed that the MASTER deck didn't change anymore. It just stayed on the right deck (deck 2). If I pressed MASTER manually for deck 1 it changed, but quantize didn't work still. Sync itself worked (two decks were adjusted to the same tempo by the software).

I used DJM-2000 as a soundcard and two CDJ-2000s as controllers (HID). Up until that point, when quantize function didn't work anymore, I didn't no anything out of the ordinary. So I can't name a reason what could trigger this bug. Although I did drag a track from a smart playlist to another standard playlist right before it started to happen. Can there be a connection?

Gunnar Tamm 0 votes
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@Sentinel > You do understand the function of the quantize is not to synchronize the tracks, rather to snap the beat to the grid (such as when you press a hot cue button).

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Can it be confirmed or not that in order to beat match successfully on rekordbox every track needs to have its beat grid adjusted correctly ,even when you don't use sync?

Chris Longman 0 votes
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@Chris > You could beatmatch without analysing tracks at all, just use your ears.

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Yes, I know what quantize means. At one point the quantize doesn't work at all. No snapping to the beatgrid what so ever.

Gunnar Tamm 0 votes
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@Sentinel > Check the value you have set in the preferences for the quantize; the lower the value, the less likely you are to notice if it's working:

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You dont have to adjust the beatgrid to beatmatch. Just dont use your eyes

Link Woofhouse 0 votes
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@Pulse

Mine is set to 1 also.

As I described, everything worked fine for 4 hours, after that something happened and the problem appeared what I described above. After the party, I restarted Rekordbox and all was fine again.

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Been beat matching on various equipment with no sync for 15 years and never had anything drifting like on rekordbox,that's why I'm asking if rekordbox is capable of it without having to beat grid ,analyse etc.it's been mentioned plenty of times on here now.

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I get issues after rekordbox has been on for awhile. Usually the left jog on my rzx stops scratching. After a restart it works fine.

Link Woofhouse 0 votes
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Just got a brand new pioneer DDJ-RX. Exact same problem, I mean I thought I could beat match until I used rekordbox! Had it for 2 days and had about 3 problems so far. One being exactly how you described, another being distorted sound after 15mins of running the software. All seems to be fine though when I restart the software. Anyway point of my post is, I've now mapped my RX to traktor and it feels amazing. Sort it out pioneer, absolutely shocking! I never ever review products however Rekordbox is painful.

Adam Williams 0 votes
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Just been pinged back to this thread and noticed  a few responses that irritate me,I know how to beat match by ear thank you very much ,what I am saying is with this it seems like all the tracks need gridding or the software just slIps it out whether you have matched it correctly or not,definitely something wrong with the dj software anyway as I since ditched it to buy a xdjrx and had no issues with beat matching, something I learned 15 year ago that rekordbox dj tried to take away.

Chris Longman 0 votes
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This old but something I noticed. I had rekordbox with RZX and it was pissing me off how sync was reacting. +1 on it having a mind of it's own. Here is how I best can explain it..

SYNC ON + QUANTIZE ON: I can drop the needle anywhere with the hot cue LOOP while sync is turned on with quantize. Once it's locked in, I cannot change it "SOMETIMES" with pitch bend (i couldn't figure out how to replicate this but it is random) and whenever i press another cue point it will drop in the same part i started with like it's on an invisible grid i created. The hot cue point doesn't have this behavior in this configuration. it seems to work fine with Sync on + quantize on.The workaround is stopping the track, then starting with a hot cue point and not a hot cue loop (which I would prefer). In this config, the play button seems to do the job right like the cue point.

SYNC OFF + QUANTIZE ON: In this setup, I can drop the cue point and cue loop wherever I want and it locks to that as long as the track is playing. the work around is the same as sync on + quantize on.

So I would expect cue loop and cue point to have the same behavior in a single configuration. Is that not the intention? It seems like with Quantize on only... its quantizing based off of where you dropped the cue point and doesn't change to the grid on the other track, unless you dropped it right on the spot.. which I feel like defeats the purpose of quantize? But with sync and quantize on, why do cue points seem to work correctly but cue loops don't?

I didn't want to post a new threat cause this seems like what i'm dealing with which is more than a year old. I still see this behavior in the latest rekordbox. 

Side questions are what is sync supposed to be doing in rekordbox? Does Quantize engage to the other tracks beatgrid automatically when on but only when using hot cue points but not loops?

Jae Lawrence 0 votes
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Update: So today the behavior has changed again. 

WHen pressing sync, the track matches the grid to the master deck, but now when I press a cue, the Beat Sync turns yellow 

 

 

I then get this message at the bottom of my screen

 

Can someone please tell me what is happening? Im doing with with the same exact tracks I was testing with the day before.

Jae Lawrence 0 votes
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