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Sample De-Click / Fades

Loving my SP-16 and AS-1, amazing sound and great workflow! I know a lot of people are requesting loads of extra new features but to be honest I'm happy with my SP exactly as it is but there is just one thing that has been missing in the last few updates!

If you're not using standard sample pack loops and are recording your own samples there is no way to de-click the sample if there's a clipped waveform at the start/end of the loop (i.e. put a micro fade at the start and end to smooth out the waveform).

In the original manual there was a picture of the de-click function in the sample edit page but it did not appear in any of the updates.

It would be really good to see this in the live sampling update, thanks a lot! J

James Croyden

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Hello guys,

Thanks for the feedback, I will pass this along to our production team.

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Hi,
I sample just from vinyl and have not problems like this. One tip from me, don’t cut the sample in the edit screen or just a rough cut. Then go back put the m. Stretch off and make the fine tuning with the sequencer and in the waveform displayWhen it’s run round make a notice of the start and end point and cut the sample again in the edit screen.

I hope pioneer put some file manager tools in the edit menus like overwrite, delete, copy samples and make directories.

Greetings

teja vogt 0 votes
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Thanks but I this fix is long winded and doesn't resolve the problem. It might be ok for sampling and time stretching from records but not recording live bass in 4 bar loops For example when you can get a click or pop as the two waveforms don't exactly match at the start/end of the four bars. This is usually fixed by inserting micro fades.

Long winded workarounds using multiple editing or fiddling with the attack and release option aren't serious options. The declick/fade is a simple fix and was in the original manual.

This is a key issue for me when recording, I'm not really interested in extra features like file management tbh.

James Croyden 0 votes
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Thanks but this fix is long winded and doesn't resolve the problem. It might be ok for sampling and time stretching from records but not recording live bass in 4 bar loops For example when you can get a click or pop as the two waveforms don't exactly match at the start/end of the four bars. This is usually fixed by inserting micro fades.

Long winded workarounds using multiple editing or fiddling with the attack and release option aren't serious options. The declick/fade is a simple fix and was in the original manual.

This is a key issue for me when recording, I'm not really interested in extra features like file management tbh.

James Croyden 0 votes
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Okay, I hope for they change it in 1.5.

Pioneer must understand that they built the best stand alone since years and that they just fix some problems with the os. And I think a lot of peoples would switch to the sp-16.

teja vogt 0 votes
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Yeah it's very cool and so close to being an all time classic!

Hopefully 1.5 won't just be live sampling and will include the bug fixes, file management stuff, and other bits.. really looking forward to it, hope we won't be disappointed!

James Croyden 0 votes
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Yeah, a way to deal with clicks/pops in loops would be great.

For the record and also for anyone from Pioneer reading this, there's two standard fixes for this problem:

The first one is using really small fadein/fadeouts. That's basically a really fast amp env which 'rounds off' the end of the sample. (For loops, using a really small crossfade area where the loop is layered on itself.) Recording a few extra microseconds of audio will give plenty of space to crossfade the loop. Be careful with this though, bad implementations can mess up transients.

The second one is to snap sample playback to 'zero crossings', where the waveform goes above/below the 'no sound' midpoint. This guarantees that the sound won't suddenly jump around when it loops. Most sounds have zero crossings *everywhere*, and you're guaranteed to see two within the period of the fundamental, for pitched sounds that don't have massive DC offset problems.

 

Anna N. 1 vote
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Yep those clicks and pops are annoying. Please include this fade function in upcoming 1.5.

Marcin Tenczynski 0 votes
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