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How to use the same track in different playlists with different hot cues?

I have a NXS2 setup and make use of playlists and hot cues extensively in my performances. I like to keep and refine my playlists so I arrive at a gig with several on my stick. This allows me to react on the night by moving between playlists.

The downside of Rekordbox is that hot cue and memory point data appears to be saved with the track. This means that if I want to use the same track in different playlists with different hot cue placements I have to make a duplicate of the track with a slightly different name and then re-create my cues.

So, my questions are;

A) Is there a way to save hot cue and memory point data within a playlist? 

B) Is there an easier workaround to the one I have described?

C) Could this be a feature request? 

hi5xan

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So one thing I found that works well for this is the following:
1 In Rekordbox select the file you want to use in another playlist
2 Right Click and open the file location
3 look at the filename and change one character from upper to lower Case (or vice versa)
3a. Note that this doesn't Change the Filename except to Rekordbox.
4 Drag the File to your new playlist
5 set Hot Cues and Memory as you wish

Rekordbox now has 2 different entries for the Same file! I use this all the time if I want different beat grids or Cue points for the same track. Works great and no additional copies of the same song.

Hope That helps!

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Many thanks for this. I followed the instructions, or at least how I interpreted them but when I included the file in a new playlist and then changed the cues in that playlist they were still being written back to the file in my collection.

Any chance you could make a short video clip, upload to YouTube and then share the link please?

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So I should have asked if you use a Mac or a windows machine, and also it you Play with a controller connected to Rekordbox.

I only tried this on my Windows laptop while connected to either my DDJ-1000 Or my DDJ-SX2
But it works Perfectly.
In fact if you export to Rekordbox.XML and then open the file you will see 2 entries for the same track (they will be in different locations in the file)
The only difference will be in capitalization of the filename. All the Hot Cues and memory cues as Well as Beat Grid information will be there too.

I'll try and snapshot some pictures later.

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So here is a screenshot of an old Rock Track from John Mellencamp.  The same track is used but it has two different entries and is in two different playlists.  You'll also see that there are different hot cues.  I will include the Rekordbox.xml entries so you can see them next.

Here you can see that the Path is to the exact same file name, but I altered the capitalization.  I started by adding the file to my collection once with the capitalization correct. Then I slightly changed the capitalization (same exact spelling - i.e. same file) and added it to another playlist.  Note the differences in Hot Cues and BPM, Rekordbox thinks its two different database entries but uses the same track for each.

Note that I haven't added a track like this for a while so this has been in my collection for many versions of Rekordbox.  Not sure if it was a bug they corrected, but it still shows up as two different tracks in my database.  I'm going to try it again in a little while.

 

 

 

 

 

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And if you are familiar with the Rekordbox.xml file here are the entries into the database for the same track.  Track ID 9299 has 3 Hot Cues assigned, while Track ID 9300 has none.  The location field for each of these entries is the same track!

 

    <TRACK TrackID="9299" Name="Kiss Me Back (Extended Mix)" Artist="Kim Sozzi"
           Composer="Not Documented" Album="Club Anthems 2" Grouping=""
           Genre="Dance &amp; DJ" Kind="MP3 File" Size="8228570" TotalTime="243"
           DiscNumber="1" TrackNumber="12" Year="2013" AverageBpm="130.26"
           DateAdded="2019-06-28" BitRate="320" SampleRate="44100" Comments="Amazon.com Song ID: 239808548"
           PlayCount="0" Rating="0" Location="file://localhost/C:/Temp/12%20-%20Kiss%20Me%20Back%20(Extended%20Mix).mp3"
           Remixer="" Tonality="" Label="" Mix="">
      <TEMPO Inizio="0.066" Bpm="130.26" Metro="4/4" Battito="1"/>
      <POSITION_MARK Name="1" Type="0" Start="0.066" Num="0" Red="40" Green="226"
                     Blue="20"/>
      <POSITION_MARK Name="2" Type="0" Start="5.593" Num="1" Red="40" Green="226"
                     Blue="20"/>
      <POSITION_MARK Name="3" Type="0" Start="14.805" Num="2" Red="40" Green="226"
                     Blue="20"/>
    </TRACK>
    <TRACK TrackID="9300" Name="Kiss Me Back (Extended Mix)" Artist="Kim Sozzi"
           Composer="Not Documented" Album="Club Anthems 2" Grouping=""
           Genre="Dance &amp; DJ" Kind="MP3 File" Size="8228570" TotalTime="243"
           DiscNumber="1" TrackNumber="12" Year="2013" AverageBpm="130.26"
           DateAdded="2019-06-28" BitRate="320" SampleRate="44100" Comments="Amazon.com Song ID: 239808548"
           PlayCount="0" Rating="0" Location="file://localhost/C:/Temp/12%20-%20kiss%20Me%20Back%20(Extended%20Mix).mp3"
           Remixer="" Tonality="" Label="" Mix="">
      <TEMPO Inizio="0.066" Bpm="130.26" Metro="4/4" Battito="1"/>
    </TRACK>
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A) Is there a way to save hot cue and memory point data within a playlist? 

No, and the cues aren't saved to the track, they are saved tot he XML

B) Is there an easier workaround to the one I have described?

Copying the track you have and slightly renaming it will be the only way to achieve what you want. 

C) Could this be a feature request? 

I personally would not have use of having separate sets of cues for the same track. 

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So you don't need to copy the track, just the change of caps works fine as i explained above.

How you use the tools are up to you, having them when you don't need them is better than needing them when you don't have them.

I'm just passing on some gained knowledge and paying it forward!

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It seems that editing the location in the way you have described is not possible on a Mac. When you right click on a track and select "show information" the track location is on the information summary tab and is not editable. The track tags are editable, but they do not contain the location.

 

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