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"...slapped in the face with a trout."
I'm not sure why it's defaulted to 8, but will pass along the feedback.
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XDJ-XZ- max 8 beat beat jump !!!! Why?
Do the Product design engineers at Pioneer actually know how to dj? Can someone please go over and tell them that dj music it typically phrased with 16 beat or 32 beat loops?
It baffles the mind why you guys would make the same mistake as you did with the beat jump on the CDJ2000NXS2 ... but then one up yourselves ... screw it up more and take off the 16 as well!
Who beat jumps 2 beats? NO ONE!!!
After not spending the minor amount of manufacturing costs to increase the ram size on the CDJ2000NXS2 mother board so it could capture 32 beats worth of material, Why would you guys not fix the issue on this mother board?
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You can toggle... In Beatjump mode:
- shift, and hit 8bar left/right
- cycles through and gives you access to the 16 & 32 bar options.
No idea where you would set this as the default though.
Whoever decided on the UI / UX / default settings for the XDJ-XZ should get slapped in the face with a trout.
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Guess we're both old enough to know the trout...
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Default is 1, 2, 4, 8
back & forth, for the 8 pads, from top left to top right.
Shift + "back & forth" moves the offset matrix through the buttons...so if you hit left-8bar jump with shift twice, you would have 16 & 32 (where there previously was 4 & 8...), but not 1, 2 bar jumps as options anymore as they have been pushed to the "left"..
one would need to try it on the unit to get this description most likely...
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Sorry guys, the stand-alone defaults are:
(Top row of pads) < 1, 1 >, < 2, 2 >
(bottom row of pads) < 4, 4 >, < 8, 8 >
These are not adjustable and 8 beats is the maximum available on the hardware - unfortunately no updates will be able to extend this.
Within rekordbox, those values are flexible and can be changed to a maximum of 512.
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Well then I'm back to my original question. do the engineers at pioneer that design this stuff actually DJ?
NO ONE JUMPS TWO BEATS !
Spend the small amount of production material investment per unit required to have more RAM on the mother board to capture a usable amount of material in the cache. 80% of your customers are using material built on 32 beat phrases & loops. It makes zero sense to put out a unit with a max of 8 beat beat-jump.
The only two beat jump values that matter are 16 & 32 unless you're the laziest turntablist on the plant and need a 1 beat jump to setup a beat juggle.
The designers cant be that clueless. I swear they purposely keep common sense features out of the the lower cost items on the product roster to push people to the higher price point units.
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I'll tell you why it's 1/2/4/8, because 8 is the limit of the hardware.
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its not a limit of the hardware ... you guys are designing the hardware!!! its not like the technology doesn't exist or that there is no affordable component on the market. The limit of the hardware can be changed simply by putting a bigger RAM chip on the motherboard in the design specs.
it is 1,2,4 & 8 because a pioneer project manager didnt fight the bean counters protecting pioneer's profit margin to force them to spend more money on a better motherboard or more RAM so the unit can capture more than 8 beats of material.
They told me the same excuse when I said the same thing about the CDJ2000NXS2 only jumping 16.
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...thus a limit in the capabilities of the hardware.
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