I paid for a subscription to Rekordbox 6 for two months, during which time I analysed most of my library for vocals. The analysis stayed for a couple of months after (I estimate, my memory isn't too good these days). When I was playing today, I noticed that all of the blue lines to indicate vocals had disappered from my library.
What's up with that? Do I have to pay every month just to keep this very simple feature? I get that I had to pay for it in order to use it. I wasn't happy, but I paid anyway, but to have to pay to keep work that the software did in the past seems ludicrous.
From the record, I own a DDJ 1000 and a DDJ XP. I'm not trying to analyse any new songs for vocals, I just want the ones I did in the past ti still be there.
If you didn't pay to keep the Creative plan, you no longer have access to the creative features, of which Vocal Detection is one. I'm sorry if there was a misconception that you would retain the position detection markings of previously analysed songs (the analysis remains, but it's the display thereof that is disabled).
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Is that not a bit tight on Pioneer's behalf? Like I said, I don't want to analyse any new tracks, and it's prohibitively expensive for me to pay for a subscription every month. Seems like it would be pretty easy for you to just leave it there.
I've never been one to talk bad about the subscription model. I don't really agree with it, but I've always said that as long as you have a hardware unlock device, it's essentially free anyway. You can do most of the things you need to do with the base version, if you have a hardware unlock device.
Seems like I might have to re-evaluate my position there, though. I'm not going to make a big impact to your sales or anything like that, I'm not a famous DJ. I'm just a guy who likes to play about, occasionally play at a bar or something like that.
It just seems a bit cheap, from such a big company...
I understand, however consider the flip side if we allowed users to either use a trial or just pay for one month to analyse their entire collection once, but use it forever.
Also, the wording in the advertising is hardly crystal clear about it, either.
"You'll need Creative Plan to use Vocal Position Detection."
It's hardly definitive that you need to keep on paying for. It's probably a fair assumption that you have to pay for it to analyse tracks, but the continued use is a bit amiguous, to say the least. Maybe I'm being naive, but I am currently studying Linguistics, and it's not clear to me, or it wasn't at the time I purchased the subscription. I've never been one to really read the small print, though. No one really does.
I'll certainly pass that along to our marketing team to review.
I'd say a great deal of users are constantly expanding their library, so if they want to analyse new tracks, they have to keep on paying.
I can do the same thing, more or less, using cue points and comments to indicate vocal position, but it's tedious and unnecessary. I don't even really play that much vocal music, I just thought it would be a nice thing to try out. It works well, for the most part, although acid lines are often mistaken for vocals. I tried it out, it was OK. It's certainly not worth me paying for, in the middle of a pandemic, when I'm not even working, as a DJ, or otherwise. Times are tough, all round!
I hear that and apologize for the confusion. Certainly, it can be a burden paying all these monthly costs, but we are constantly adding and expanding the features in the Creative plan to hopefully make it something worth subscribing to once DJs are working (and earning!) again.
Thank you for replying, anyway. Add a stems feature, like Virtual DJ, then I might think about paying every month!
That software looks like crap, but the stems feature is very cool. I think Pioneer could do it better. Crisper stems, less muddy sounding. They're cool for DJing with, but they'd probably be kind of bad for production. I'm not a producer, so I wouldn't know much about that.