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Why can't you burn CDs with recordbox?

Hi guys! 

 

Is it only me who thinks it's absolutely crazy to hava a mp3-software from the biggest brand of CD-players and not be able to burn your CDs there? I can understand the agenda to have people switch from CD's to files, and therefor make the software for the file-functions only. But It just don't feel thought through. Before Pioneer can promise us CDJ2000 at every club all the times you will still always need to burn your music on CDs. What have happend now is that you make you tracklists in Recordbox and your other program and then burn plus copy = twice the work for each gig. This have made it impossible for me to switch over to Recordbox completely, which is my wish. How hard can it be to have a connection to the computers CD-burner? Is it politics or technical issues? 

Sometimes I wonder if Pioneer forgets who are their end users, only focusing on the "big names". Their needs maybe lead the way for the rest of us, but the only thing I ask for is a decent chance to make the improvements without spending too much time. Accessibility should not be underestimated

What do you think? 

 

 

 

Æmma

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I disagree, for me personally I don't see a need for it, for me, the idea of RekordBox is so you DON'T need to burn CDs any more, not the other way round.  If they came up with CD burning software first (before RekordBox), and killed that feature off once RekordBox was released but before it was mainstream enough to do so without uproar from users, then yes I'd agree with you.

 

It's not up to Pioneer to supply or promise every club with CDJ2000s either, that's the nightclub's job to do. 

AngusGibbins 0 votos
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I think Pioneer should provide with a software everyone can use to his/her individual needs. It should give you the freedom to work the way YOU like. You want burn cd-s or dvd-s with RB there you go, you want import your folders why not ?...and so on. It should not restrict us in any way.. Pioneer should have these options in RB and let the END USER decide the way is goig to use it.

I doubt very much this is an technical issue...we talk about top engineers and what century is ??.....so I don't buy that..

The other thing..to respond to "AngusGibbins" I think you missed the point "dilemma" was making. Of course it's not up to Pioneer to supply CDJs, he was talking about how long it will take until every club will have them...worldwide...see not every manager has dj in mind..I know places where they still play on 800s and if you would ask about upgrade you only see the silly smile on their faces = years....sad I know...

myself - I bought pair CDJs1000MK3 roughly 2 months b4 cdj900&2000 official release... (I would probably wait if it wouldn't be such a SECRET u remember ?) I added cdj2000 later...but it doesn't mean I will quickly get rid off 1000s why would I ? Same in many clubs / bars etc..

So I agree with Dilemma - give power to the people - you (Pioneer) provide the options and let people work with it the way they like ;)

PS: these things happen...imagine you are at the gig with 1 HDD and it dies.. it just won't work...unless you live round the corner from the place you gig at and have a back-up plan you are f****d. Imagine how only 2 dvd's you bring with you, could save the night...think about it haaa ?

Joe 0 votos
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I agree rbx should not be too bloated however it would be nice to burn discs with all the rbx data included so we have waveforms and such instantaneously,

It would complete the rbx usage over the decks and the software.

Nick Hilton 0 votos
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Joe: The other thing..to respond to "AngusGibbins" I think you missed the point "dilemma" was making. Of course it's not up to Pioneer to supply CDJs, he was talking about how long it will take until every club will have them...worldwide...see not every manager has dj in mind..I know places where they still play on 800s and if you would ask about upgrade you only see the silly smile on their faces = years....sad I know...

I know that very well, Dilemma said: Before Pioneer can promise us CDJ2000 at every club all the times you will still always need to burn your music on CDs.  That's not up to Pioneer, how can they possible feasibly guarantee that?  Before gigs I always find out what CDJs are going to be at the venue, if they're 1000's or less, I normally just burn a few CDs full of tunes I want to play (It's becoming more and more infrequent though) :-)

Joe: myself - I bought pair CDJs1000MK3 roughly 2 months b4 cdj900&2000 official release... (I would probably wait if it wouldn't be such a SECRET u remember ?) I added cdj2000 later...but it doesn't mean I will quickly get rid off 1000s why would I ? Same in many clubs / bars etc..

So I agree with Dilemma - give power to the people - you (Pioneer) provide the options and let people work with it the way they like ;)

That sucks man, and I feel for you for buying 1000's so close to the release date, the secrecy is almost as bad as Apple products

Joe: PS: these things happen...imagine you are at the gig with 1 HDD and it dies.. it just won't work...unless you live round the corner from the place you gig at and have a back-up plan you are f****d. Imagine how only 2 dvd's you bring with you, could save the night...think about it haaa ?

Always have a backup plan, my standard gig bag these days is a 300gb portable hard drive and two 32gb thumb drives (Which are mirror images of each other)

Pionix: I agree rbx should not be too bloated however it would be nice to burn discs with all the rbx data included so we have waveforms and such instantaneously,

I don't know, I'd rather see resources put into other parts of the software first I guess, and I see RekordBox more as an alternative to Traktor rather than a mother of all media management.

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The idea of a playlist to cd burner would be a cool and handy feature.

Especially with so many 1000s still in the clubs..

Benno Revelli 0 votos
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This feature has been requested a while back (and re-submitted to them today thanks to the new system).   Hopefully it will make its way into the software as I know why it's important and Pioneer isn't turning its back on the CD just yet!

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"I don't know, I'd rather see resources put into other parts of the software first I guess, and I see RekordBox more as an alternative to Traktor rather than a mother of all media management."

 

We have already been told that this will never happen as pioneer do not want a traktor based system and the decks will never control the software.

I personally like the mother of all media management, Let traktor and serato do what they do best as they are years ahead of the game in their field where as pioneer unfortunately chose Mixvibes as their vehicle and havent made a very good entry into the market.

Nick Hilton 0 votos
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Pionix: We have already been told that this will never happen as pioneer do not want a traktor based system and the decks will never control the software.

That's not what I said.

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Just thinking the same thing the other day
Havnt had much time on the cdjs got my 1210's out the loft just after crimbo havnt done owt wi them in ten years had a blast on them wi sum old tune's and thought ad like to get back in to this so got myself self sum 850's wished ad got the 2000's but getting back to the matter in hand downloaded Rekordbox got tracks and thought the same how do burn ya CDs from it same as going wi the waveforms no I havnt been back in the game long and a no alot of things hav changed since the good old 1210's pioneer need to start listening to people

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For me personally, I would like to see an 'import CD' option, meaning that I no longer have to use EAC or iTunes and then import the files to RB.  I rarely buy CDs nowadays, but when I do, and for the ones I still have, they get converted to LAME 320 MP3 and thrown into RB.  Being able to convert to MP3 in RB on-the-fly would be a welcome addition.

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It would definately be nice to be able to burn cds from RKB and include all the waveform information. That would be awesome and would save a few steps.

 

 

Johnathon 0 votos
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It would certainly not contain the waveform information as that data is not read from the optical drive.

Pulse 0 votos
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Hi,

 

I have a gig where I have to use CD again. Now all my playlists are in Recordbox and I can't get them in any way exported into a CD burn program.

 

Please help!

GWsound 0 votos
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@GWsounds > Sorry, but Pulse stated this isn't possible since the waveform data is not read from the optical drive on the CDJ's.

If there is any way you could use a USB stick because that would work great.

Thanks,

Foster 

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@fostere, I don't need the waveform data, only the music :). I just have to work with the CDJ1000 again and I have everything in the digital domain now. So I need a way to export my Recordbox playlist so that I can burn the tracks from my computer on a CD again. Please help!

What I currently did (but this cost to much time) is the following: I put one playlist on a clean memorystick. Then I go with Sony CD architect application to the content directory on the stick and select all the tracks. Then I burn a CD from the USB stick. As stated, this takes a lot of time since you have to copy the WAV music files 2x (too and from the slow stick). Secondly the order of the tracks is now wrong since CD architect will put it on alphabet order.

GWsound 0 votos
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Something simple: add an option in the playlists windows, a very simple option: EXPORT PLAYLIST TO ISO. Stop, nothing more. Rekordbox don't burn the cd.....blabla.....Don the  iso file and I will burn it myself...... 

Galipao 0 votos
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Yep I fully agree with Galipao. Maybe for the mean time Pioneer van deliver a converter for the XML file so that I can read this in to any program? It is really a problem that after working one day on my new set I have to work another 4 hours to get the playlists on CD by hand selection of files!

GWsound 0 votos
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Maybe I should bring my laptop and use Serato Scratch..

GWsound 0 votos
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Your suggestions have been noted and been passed along to the development team.

Gavin 0 votos
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Would it be possible to receive tomorrow a beta release so that I can solve my problem. I have to burn 40 CD's. The only way to get my pleylist exported to CD is currently by exporting one playlist to USB and then copy the content folder and put that on a CD. This is a lot of effort since it takes 10 min to copy to USB and another 10min to copy it back to the CD burn software.

 

A beta release where I can export a playlist to a standard file format that Windows Media player can handle would be fine.

GWsound 0 votos
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@GWsounds > Sorry but Pioneer doesn't release "beta" versions for software right now, and it hasn't even been 24 hours since Gavin passed the info along to the engineers. There are a lot of things the engineers have to work on right now, and unfortunately I do not see this being ready before this weekend.

It might help cut a few minutes of time if you right click on each track in your playlist, and select "Show in Finder" (Mac) then you can import the track your burn software, or drag and drop the file to where ever you need it.

Thanks,

Foster

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@foster Thanks for the hint, this will help indeed to save some time because I can copy internally in the computer. Newer noticed this option before on the screen :).

 

Rgarding the software patch, I know that this can be very easily made in the software since it is only a format generator. In other project I got this kind of things in one hour...

GWsound 0 votos
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Why does everyone think that these features can be "very easily made"?  It's not just a matter of adding one line...

Pulse 0 votos
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Well, because it is my job to manage this kind of things. So I know how it goes and what it takes...

GWsound 0 votos
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I think that if you requested it in June and it was not in the release 1.5.0 delivered, you have a problem with your software supplier.

GWsound 0 votos
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Off the record:

Please remember what happend with Technics when we stepped to CD..or Nokia when we got the smart phone. The DJ world is now moving into digital..

GWsound

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Yes, I think it's hard to make something that you don't want to do...

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