HI, I am running an up-to-date RMX-1000 with my Condesa Carmen V. When I turn on the send return with the rmx, even with no effects active, there is a slight delay in the return, causing phasing problems so it sounds light a very tight delay. This seems to indicate the RMX is returning the signal with a slight lag.
Here is a video I took of it, you can clearly hear the problem as I turn up and down one of the four sends as well as the return.
Please note this issue is present on BOTH send/return and Master settings on the RMX.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQYMAXiHJpo
Link to my mixer:
https://condesaelectronics.com/shop/carmen-v/
Condesa is an extremely reputable manufacturer using full discrete analog circuity, so I highly doubt the problem is the mixer, but I'm still open to hear other opinions. The a friend of mine with the same mixer says he's used Line6's Echo Park with no problems.
Thanks
Nice mixer!
The RMX does inherently introduce some delay as it takes time for the signal to be converted (A>D), processed / effected, then converted again (D>A). The lag is quite minimal and we don't recommend DJs have a full dry AND full wet signal playing simultaneously to avoid noticing the lag.
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Do your beautiful Condesa a favor and leave the RMX-1000 in the closet ;-)
Same Lagging problem but using Rane MP2015 Send/Return. Really Disappointed. If I don't fix it in 10 days I will send the unit back to the store under 30day's returning policy.
@Morvius > That's not a problem with the RMX, it's entirely how the Rane Send/Return functions. It's the same with Allen & Heath; their aux send system is not a 100% audio routing. Sorry!
@pulse then why do my tc electronic delay and strymon modulator work fine with 0 phase cancellation or delay? sounds like an RMX problem to me
Because of the wet/dry mix.
Surprising to me Pinoeer continues to sell an $800 "professional" effects unit that can't work in most mixers send/return loop. The only time I haven't heard it sound like complete garbage is when it's hooked up to a pioneer mixer
Tested the KaossPad KP3+ and it's working without any delay feedback. @pulse So the problem is not the send/return in the mixer! Is the RMX-1000 which is going back to the store tomorrow morning. Again disappointed by Pioneer products! First was a brand new CDJ-2000nxs2 which came with Startup error's right from the box :))
Hi everybody!! Will I have same A&H phase problem with a Denon mixer???
Best regards
Depends on their S/R loop implementation.
More importantly it depends on Pioneer's inexplicable decision (read: reliance on their mixers) to not offer a dry signal kill for mixers without selectable channel insert functions, i.e. 95% of all mixers
It doesn't work with my A&H xone43, I don't know what the problem is technically speaking, I'm a regular user who uses these devices as a hobby, I also don't want to be a God of technical knowledge. It would help me to know from your experience, with which mixers of other brands this product (RMX1000) works correctly using SEND/RETURN... for example, will it work with a denon x1700?
Greetings to all