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Loop exit when i call a cue point

If i have a loop engaged, as soon as i press a cue the loop is exitted. 

koolbreeze

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Ok. I along with some other users would love if this is optional then. Alot of us user like to capture a loop and still be able to call up a hot cue with the loop still on. That is normal behaviour that we have been accustomed to

koolbreeze 1 vote
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Just press the "ACTIVE LOOP" button on your controller and the loop will remain active when the play position reaches that loop again.

Which software are you using that this is "normal behaviour," because that's not what happens in rekordbox.

Pulse 0 votes
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In sdj and sl thats the normal behaviour. And i understand your activate loop recomendation.
Its totally different. This is it
Say i have a track on deck one. I have hot cues at the begining of track at bar 1. I play the song then make a loop of the 5th bar. If i press cue 1. Track will go to the hot cue and still has the loop active on the 5 bar so wen it reaches that point it will loop. Facts.

In rbdj that loop will exit as soon as i hit the cue button.

koolbreeze 0 votes
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If it's something you use frequently, store it as an active loop (red loop icon):

Otherwise I don't see the problem in re-activating the loop?

Pulse 0 votes
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I use it often enough to notice. But it is something i do on the fly. Setting in pr prep will not suffice for me. I do it Most often to tracks with short intros. Then i use hot cue on the drop. The loop would fall into place and stays until i exit.

koolbreeze 0 votes
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Hold on, you're looping ... then jumping back to beat 1, then looping again? It sounds like you could simplify the process by having the loop extend back to the first hot cue, basically making it part of the hot loop.

Pulse 0 votes
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Right. Exactly. But as rbdj is now. If i made that loop on the fly. As soon as i press hot cue 1 the loop exits.

koolbreeze 0 votes
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So make HC1 a hot loop instead, or store HC2 as a hot loop at the same position as HC1.

Pulse 0 votes
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I get what your saying with all the work arounds. but hey man i am just here to beta test and give feedback and recomendations as a user about the options i feel would be easier

koolbreeze 0 votes
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And I'm trying to give you solutions that work without making extra effort!

Pulse 0 votes
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I feel your pain, I do the exact same thing with Serato DJ. I have been reading some of the response from the rekordbox dj guys, they have become very rude with each response. I wish they stop the rude remarks.

Tega Ologe 0 votes
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If I understand KoolBreeze correctly:

Start track with Hot Cue A, in sync with whatever is playing.
Track progresses and you engage a 4 Beat Loop.
You then hit Hot Cue A again and expect the loop to remain engaged until you EXIT Loop?

This is a behaviour I have also become accustomed to also.

Particularly handy as you say when there maybe has;t been full pre-prep on a track or just depending how you plan to transition it in, and might not have set a Hot Loop.

This way you can play the track, sync, decide that a 4 Beat Loop is appropriate as the start of your transition, jump back to Hot Cue A keeping loop engaged, begin your mix transition, then release your loop so the track drops perfectly in time.

So if it's up for consideration, Im all for a +1

Ross 0 votes
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I know this thread is old, but...   I'm having this problem right now.  It is STILL behavior that I'm used to and I'm coming from using DJay Pro...  Is there a solution yet?

Marcus Farmer 0 votes
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All,

perhaps this youtube video will be helpful:  https://youtu.be/oJY4Rzv9lSM

Apparently, if you set the loop FIRST, then press the hotcue button to set it..., the loop AND the position of the hotcue are saved... Meaning you can play any portion of the song, then return to the hotcue position with the loop set already!  Try it.  It works.

(Just remember to initally set the loop first, then press the hotcue button to program- just like he does in this video)

Marcus Farmer 0 votes
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Hello everyone, yea this is an annoying setting from pioneer. Let start by saying that there are 2 type of cues. Hot cue, and memory cue. The difference is that the memory cue is linked to a loop, so if you set up the Hot cue while the loop is engaged it will be saved as a memory cue. All great right? WROOOG!!!!! When one beatmaches by hear (because thats what a dj does) playing a loop and being able to restart it with a hot cue makes it easy to beat match and this can be accomplished with memory cues. But if you are like me and improvise your mixes live, sometimes the loops need to be adjusted to make then sound good and the first kick of the loop ends up being in the middle of the loop if that makes sense. Since memory cues start only on the first kick of the loop sometimes its dificult to get the actual first kick ( the one in the middle of the loop) to hit at the same time and the song to trying to match it with. With serato the loop exits when you tell it to and you can set up cues anywhere so its more confortable to beatmatch when you have full controll of your cues and loops. I respect pioneer and their style of djing. But come on now. Just make it optional to exit loops on hot cues or not. Very simple very usefull. Djs happy

Hadmetl Aguayo 1 vote
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Hey Hadmetl,

It sounds a bit like you might have QUANTIZE enabled, which would snap the loop (or hot cue) to the beat, depending on your quantize value. If you either adjust the value or disable quantize, you an set the loops or cues anywhere you want.

Pulse 0 votes
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No quantize was disabled. Thats just how the memory cues work. And the hot cues exit the loop. So the point is. That there no way to have a cue in the middle of a loop that doesnt exit the lool

Hadmetl Aguayo 1 vote
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That's correct, unless it was stored as a loop itself.

Pulse 0 votes
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I've come from a Serato background and was seriously looking into to switching to Rekordbox, but this may be bordering on a dealbreaker for me.

This has been asked before: https://forums.pioneerdj.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/205878523-Cue-within-an-active-loop

I've tried every permutation I can think of using Hot Cues / Hot Cue Loops (the Hot Cue jumps to the beginning of the loop when saved) / pressing Reloop (again the play head jumps to the beginning of the loop) / Memory Cues and Memory Cue loops, and the only way to activate a loop is to start the play head outside the loop, or drag it to the middle each time you want to start from your chosen position. (Even setting another Hot Cue at the start of the loop doesn't work, as it fails to activate.)

Maybe the use of this feature would be better illustrated using an example of an 8 beat instrumental in a 16 beat section:

  • bar 1 = lead snare + instrumental part 1
  • bar 2 = instrumental part 2
  • bar 3 = instrumental part 1
  • bar 4 = instrumental part 2 + trailing vocal (i.e. start of vocal for bar 5)

In Serato I can set an 8 beat loop around bars 2/3, then a Cue point/Hot Cue at the start of bar 3 (i.e. inside the loop). When I set the loop active I can then trigger an unlimited looping instrumental from the start of the instrumental (or so it sounds) whenever I want without any snare or vocal making it sound wrong.

This is easy in Serato, and as far as I can tell impossible in Rekordbox without manually moving the play head. Could I please please please ask you add this as a feature? :-)

John Jones 0 votes
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