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Master tempo help please

Hi all,

sorry for this extremely basic question. I'm running 2 CDJ200's running firmware 4.05. Now, I've read about a "master tempo" function, but don't exactly know what it is and how to use it. Is this a function where I could, for example, set my decks to play at 130bpm automatically, without having the need to manually adjust the bpm count for each new song using the pitch?

Thanks, and once again sorry for the basic stuff!

Robin

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MT function keeps the key of the song at it's original as you pitch up and down. This allows you to speed up a track without the singer sounding like a chipmunk, although the 2000 does a very poor job at it unfortunately :(

BriChi 0 votes
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[quote]although the 2000 does a very poor job at it unfortunately :([/]

But also only since one of the latest firmwares

BO the Man 0 votes
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the MT has been pretty poor since the day of release, it has gotten worse though in one of the latest releases, it didn't just start in the latest one

BriChi 0 votes
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Master Tempo is same thing as Key Lock. It locks the key of a Track even if you move the pitch more than 3% up or down.

@BriChi, I think you are correct about the Tempo. The track never falls out of sync, but you need to make corrections in order to sound perfect.

Dream Treez 0 votes
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Hi all,

thanks for all your explanations and discussion! I've used this before but referred to it as key lock, and got confused about these 2 words referring to the same thing - so thanks for sorting out my confusion!

Would someone mind to explain the problems with this feature, though? Sorry for my bad knowledge on that topic, but I haven't personally used this a lot and, even when playing with it and made a track extremely slow or extremely fast, I actually couldn't make out a change in terms of vocals or synth lines, so it seems to work OK for that matter. But then, I could be overlooking something very important...

Thanks a lot!

Robin

Robin Kipp 0 votes
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It sounds Cr** and makes mixing with it turned on difficult, it's a useless feature.  Shame because I paid good money for it.

Effect 0 votes
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In my opinion, Master Tempo has always been a worthless function on all of the CDJ products.

It basically cuts up the track in order to change the tempo while preserving the pitch of the sounds (i.e. key of the track, vocals, etc...)

The problem is that by definition, Master Tempo causes distortion to the sound.  And the further you move the tempo slider from the zero position, the worse the distortion becomes.  I have never used this feature in a performance scenario, and I never will.  I frankly wish Pioneer would drop the feature altogether and focus on more important things.

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I agree with Fuse. When Master Tempo is on and you move the pitch more than 3% it distorts the track. I also never use it.

Dream Treez 0 votes
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Then again the feature is on cdj2000 and it should work as ment to be

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Without wanting to turn this thread (too late?) into yet another mindless MT bashing exercise, here's what I have to say.

If you use MT and have no problem, then great, don't worry.  Whatever it is about your mixing style, habits, headphone monitoring style, ears or whatever, it makes you unable to hear the issue.

For those who are affected by the issue, it is very frustrating.  MT sounded fine on the CDJ-1000 MK3s, yet on the CDJ-2000s you can clearly hear beats move in and out of time constantly, forcing you to make 'corrections' which actually result in you throwing the mix out in stead of keeping it in.

Mark90 0 votes
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We need an discreet  MT who turn on only when you move the platter....That's would be GREAT...

Galipao 0 votes
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re: "

It basically cuts up the track in order to change the tempo while preserving the pitch of the sounds (i.e. key of the track, vocals, etc...)

The problem is that by definition, Master Tempo causes distortion to the sound.

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All modification in the digital realm causes some distortion, even volume changes and, yes pitch adjust too, while those don't necessarily affect quality in analog systems.  

I dont think timestretching algorithms "cut up" the sound any more,  I believe they use FFT to convert sound to sine waves and compresses or stretches them mathematically, results are better these days than they used to be.  Results also depend on the input so there is no one answer as to if a timestretch or pitch adjust is "better".  Just do it and see which you prefer.

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