Tracks not syncing even with quantize and sync button on!

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Sounds odd, but try mixing in Vertical View mode (not Horizontal), I find I can get tracks far tighter in the mix with this using 6% pitch - Loops still a little hit and miss on some tracks but getting there.

Funny that this only happens with Pioneer Controller units and RBDJ... not using RB analysed tracks and CDJs. Pioneer find it easier to just stick their head in the sand with this right now, so wager they are working on a fix and then will pipe up once it is fixed and make out that everyone was imagining it :D

K

Sounds strange but do you find that this problem sometimes happens with your tracks then sometimes it doesn't, almost as if the software just decides to work properly as and when,despite the analysing been abysmal I even adjusted some beatgrids perfectly and it still happened even with sync on,had to hold myself back from wacking it,had no problems with cdjs USB ,srato controllers then there is this trash.

stop the track and playing it again seems to fix it.  but it is a HUGE pain in the ass. 

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Very odd.. no surprise that it works 'perfectly' for Pulse. Everytime. Across every format :D  despite many other people facing the issues?

Guess we sit tight as it cannot take too long for RBDJ to catch up with Serato etc.

K

rekordbox really sucks for visual beat matching. once i stopped trying and just used my ears this problem disappeared. their problem to me, looks to be that the waveform and beatgrid dont resize when bpm is changed, so when you try and visually beatmatch you cant fully line up the grids.

happens to me also. I can sync 2 tracks and its fine. 5 minutes later the same 2 tracks will not sync even though nothing has changed. frustrating

Happened yesterday for me also. It was my second live gig with Rekordbox. I had played continuously for about 4 hours untill the songs didn't quantize anymore. First I noticed that the MASTER deck didn't change anymore. It just stayed on the right deck (deck 2). If I pressed MASTER manually for deck 1 it changed, but quantize didn't work still. Sync itself worked (two decks were adjusted to the same tempo by the software).

I used DJM-2000 as a soundcard and two CDJ-2000s as controllers (HID). Up until that point, when quantize function didn't work anymore, I didn't no anything out of the ordinary. So I can't name a reason what could trigger this bug. Although I did drag a track from a smart playlist to another standard playlist right before it started to happen. Can there be a connection?

@Sentinel > You do understand the function of the quantize is not to synchronize the tracks, rather to snap the beat to the grid (such as when you press a hot cue button).

Can it be confirmed or not that in order to beat match successfully on rekordbox every track needs to have its beat grid adjusted correctly ,even when you don't use sync?

@Chris > You could beatmatch without analysing tracks at all, just use your ears.

@Pulse

Yes, I know what quantize means. At one point the quantize doesn't work at all. No snapping to the beatgrid what so ever.

@Sentinel > Check the value you have set in the preferences for the quantize; the lower the value, the less likely you are to notice if it's working:

You dont have to adjust the beatgrid to beatmatch. Just dont use your eyes

@Pulse

Mine is set to 1 also.

As I described, everything worked fine for 4 hours, after that something happened and the problem appeared what I described above. After the party, I restarted Rekordbox and all was fine again.

Been beat matching on various equipment with no sync for 15 years and never had anything drifting like on rekordbox,that's why I'm asking if rekordbox is capable of it without having to beat grid ,analyse etc.it's been mentioned plenty of times on here now.

I get issues after rekordbox has been on for awhile. Usually the left jog on my rzx stops scratching. After a restart it works fine.

Just got a brand new pioneer DDJ-RX. Exact same problem, I mean I thought I could beat match until I used rekordbox! Had it for 2 days and had about 3 problems so far. One being exactly how you described, another being distorted sound after 15mins of running the software. All seems to be fine though when I restart the software. Anyway point of my post is, I've now mapped my RX to traktor and it feels amazing. Sort it out pioneer, absolutely shocking! I never ever review products however Rekordbox is painful.

Just been pinged back to this thread and noticed  a few responses that irritate me,I know how to beat match by ear thank you very much ,what I am saying is with this it seems like all the tracks need gridding or the software just slIps it out whether you have matched it correctly or not,definitely something wrong with the dj software anyway as I since ditched it to buy a xdjrx and had no issues with beat matching, something I learned 15 year ago that rekordbox dj tried to take away.

This old but something I noticed. I had rekordbox with RZX and it was pissing me off how sync was reacting. +1 on it having a mind of it's own. Here is how I best can explain it..

SYNC ON + QUANTIZE ON: I can drop the needle anywhere with the hot cue LOOP while sync is turned on with quantize. Once it's locked in, I cannot change it "SOMETIMES" with pitch bend (i couldn't figure out how to replicate this but it is random) and whenever i press another cue point it will drop in the same part i started with like it's on an invisible grid i created. The hot cue point doesn't have this behavior in this configuration. it seems to work fine with Sync on + quantize on.The workaround is stopping the track, then starting with a hot cue point and not a hot cue loop (which I would prefer). In this config, the play button seems to do the job right like the cue point.

SYNC OFF + QUANTIZE ON: In this setup, I can drop the cue point and cue loop wherever I want and it locks to that as long as the track is playing. the work around is the same as sync on + quantize on.

So I would expect cue loop and cue point to have the same behavior in a single configuration. Is that not the intention? It seems like with Quantize on only... its quantizing based off of where you dropped the cue point and doesn't change to the grid on the other track, unless you dropped it right on the spot.. which I feel like defeats the purpose of quantize? But with sync and quantize on, why do cue points seem to work correctly but cue loops don't?

I didn't want to post a new threat cause this seems like what i'm dealing with which is more than a year old. I still see this behavior in the latest rekordbox. 

Side questions are what is sync supposed to be doing in rekordbox? Does Quantize engage to the other tracks beatgrid automatically when on but only when using hot cue points but not loops?

Update: So today the behavior has changed again. 

WHen pressing sync, the track matches the grid to the master deck, but now when I press a cue, the Beat Sync turns yellow 

I then get this message at the bottom of my screen

Can someone please tell me what is happening? Im doing with with the same exact tracks I was testing with the day before.

@Pioneer, how is it that this issue started occurring in 2016 and it still hasn't been fixed? I have also encountered BPM fails countless of times over a time span of 3 months. It both happens when I use BPM sync and when I match BPM manually. There is no fix and no apparent trigger for the BPM to fall out of line for my two decks (and yes, BPM value is the same for both tracks). Hardware is unlikely to be the issue, it happens on my lower spec Macbook Air 2014 and with my higher spec Macbook Air 2019.

I switched from Traktor to Pioneer recently, and there is plently to love about Pioneer hardware & Rekordbox, especially the controllers being better and club grade. However, with Rekordbox being so unreliable, I'm afraid to take it to gigs nowadays. And, I'm starting to feel my controller is basically useless at this point, as performance is fine one day and absolutely sh*t the next day.

Can someone support customers in this thread instead of throwing around snarky remarks around? Is there any fix? 

Correct me if I'm wrong but;

Sync is for syncing speed of the record.

Quantize to snap to exactly the grid.

Assuming that the grid is spot on the beat of two tracks not much can go wrong.

Strangely enough, sometimes, quantize does not correct you and even turning quantize off and try to beatmatch on ear is almost impossible.

The issue here is; Why is there a random thing going on?

Sometimes everything works perfect. Next time you try this exactly the same way and it just won't word.

The discussion is not if you should beatmatch on ear, the sync button discussion etc.

The question is why doesn't it work proparly ALWAYS. Why al of a sudden the software doesn't work proparly.

This issue is going on from 2016 apparently so, what is the answer according to Pioneer. Different setup?

Please let us know, because this is frustrating.

So to be sure:

Sync is on, quantize is on, beatgrid is perfect and still the software won't get the grid's in sync. Only turning everything of and on ear works, while the software should be able to handle this.

Pls let us know what we need to do in the software (if so)

Thanks

Are there any workarounds on this as 2 years on and I am encountering the same issues as described in this thread.  

@Pioneer : Im having this sync issue with my new FLX10. I had an XDJ RX2 before this (sold it for the flx10...) but the problem is much worse on the FLX10. Im worried about using it live! Just spend $3.5k NZD on this unit... I also have a DDJ 800 and it doesn't have this sync problem. That aside, apparently this issue is 7 years old? With the lack of technical support on this im considering going back to Serato. Its amazing to me that this issue has not been resolved. Can someone from support please help?