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cdj 2000 vs cdj 2000 nexus with virtual dj

Hi,

 

After reading the forums regarding the new cdj 2000 nexus features, i wanted to know if there are any new features or improvements towards the usage of virtual dj, the current  version 7, or the soon to be released version 8.

my current dj setup is 2 cdj 2000's mk1 and 1 djm 2000. purchased it all about 3 months ago.

is there an advantage for me to upgrade to cdj 2000 nexus with virtual dj. please avoid bringing recordbox, traktor, or serto to this subject.

all replies are much appreciated; especially if you are an employee of pioneer. and since i'm new to this forum and don't know who is who. please identify your self as a pioneer employee if that's the case.

 

thanks

 

dj shahar

www.djshahar.com

dj shahar

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I can't understand that you are using so professional setup with Virtual DJ... First change your software to Traktor or Serato (it's more pro).

For me if u have cdj2000 it's not "necesary" go to nxs

Agustin Moyano 0 voti
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What the f... tell me you are using CDJ-2000's with VDJ...?

Just no.

Go standalone on the 2000 , then move on to the nexus.

Sammy 0 voti
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@Shahar > Welcome to the forums. As you can probably guess by the logo beside my name, I am a Pioneer representative.

I know you said not to mention rekordbox, but its hard not to. You are missing out a huge amount of features.

Really, we don't know what will be totally possible with VDJ but I really couldn't see much of an advantage to you upgrading. Again, if you're not using rekordbox you are really missing out - thats the most honest answer I can give you.

Gavin 0 voti
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well,

 

between gavin and agustin, upgrading to nexus with use of virtual dj is not worth the cost. so, thank you agustin and gavin for your replies. your replies have satisfied my curiosity and this topic is officially over.

 

b.t.w. i never said i don't use rekordbox or traktor. i have tested and worked with both. but of all the 3 (virtualdj, traktor, and rekordbox) i simply prefer virtualdj. here is one simple and yes it is ugly picture to illustrate why.

dj shahar 0 voti
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Why would you use a cdj 2000 or any cdj with virtual dj doesnt make any sense at all to me. .. If you want.to run software get you any of the ddj controllers JMHO

Benjamin Castro 0 voti
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@benjamin castro. as augustin would say "it's more pro."

i first wanted the djm 2000 mixer to be able to add in fx and i'm very happy with that unit. but then how would i use that unit with a controller.. so i got the 2 cdj players as well. thus i now have djm2000 as my mixer and 2 cdj2000mk1 as controllers. they also look very cool on pictures and videos. so cheers. i can now perform at any event all with this one unit. my guess is pioneer will release a djm2000mk2 and allow 2 cdj2000mk3 to connect to that one unit and run serato with just 1 usb cable. i did my research and have decided to go with what i did. and i'm very satisfied with it. i'm not so satisfied with the mk2 getting all the software updates i wanted for the mk1. but that's a whole other story i dont want to get into.

dj shahar 0 voti
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@Shahar > Thats fair enough, you are free to do whatever you want with your gear and clearly you have a solution that works for you! Plus, if you do ever get tired of VDJ then you've another huge range of options to choose from. Good luck!

Gavin 0 voti
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thanks gavin, i appreciate that. to tell you the truth, i'm always looking for something better than virtualdj (effort to be open minded and not ignorant), but i can't seem to ever find it. in my opinion serato has the best wave form but the worst midi control. scratch live requires a timecode, but then it also requires a seperate controller for hot cues. so that's out of the picture. itch and dj intro both have controllers that have hot cues and also the best 'wave form' but they also force a worthless mixer in your dj setup. so that puts all the serato line out of the equation. traktor does have a wave form (though it's kinda crappy) and their control is very much advanced. but their waveform is not relative to the other deck. virtualdj has what i like to call a 'relative wave form'. it not only shows you a wave form of the active deck, it shows you the wave form of the other deck in relation to the active deck and it takes full width of the screen to show you. and it also has full midi support. to summarize: virtual dj has midi control and relative wave form display. additionally, virtual dj supports midi commands from the djm2000 mixer which is an extra and it also has a 4 line (8 chanels) usb sound card of amazing quality. and virtual dj also supports droping in tracks not in it's library to any deck and analyze (quantize) it as soon as loaded.. even during playback. the one advantage of using rekordbox is as advertised many times: it doesn't require a high cpu or ram on the computer. it uses the power of the cdj to manipulate and scratch the track instead of the laptop. so i don't burn out the laptops's cpu. but it still doesn't have relative wave form. it doesn't allow drag'n drop from windows explorer directly to the deck. and it also doesn't support my 500k music track library. for that ofcoarse, i worked along with another programmer and built a dj database that is just database focused. it supports drag'n drop to 3rd party dj software. if pioneer were to create a "pro dj link" application for windows, then that would be my first step toward leaving virtualdj. but just the "pro dj link". none of this rekordbox nonsense that take up half the screen. see image attached

dj shahar 0 voti
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Hi there,i need help !! Can anybody help me out ?? I got a set of CDJ2000 NXS & DJM900 NXS ... I try to connect my CDJ2000 NXS with Virtual Dj , but why cant connect at all ... Can any1 of you help me to solve out this problem ??? Before that i using CDJ900 , its work very smooth .... CDJ2000 also work very smooth ... But when i connect with CDJ2000 NXS , it not working at all ....

Dvjkitz 0 voti
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that's kinda interesting, virtual dj has a midi page dedicated to the pioneer cdj 2000 nexus.. it's kinda funny that it doesn't work. what exactly doesn't work? does the cdj turn on? does the computer recognize it? do at least some controls work? are you using pc or mac? what is working.. what isn't working

dj shahar 0 voti
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Hi dj shahar,i mean the CDJ2000 NXS cant work as a MIDI...Im using PC actually.The cdj is ON !! N everything also ON !! When i want to connect the cdj2000 nxs to Virtual dj as MIDI,it doesn't work at all...

Dvjkitz 0 voti
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@ Dvjkitz

I can say the nexus do work with VDJ.

Do you have installed the drivers of the nexus.

Do you have changed yours settings in VDJ. You must assign your decks.

Grtz

Kris

Kris Adriaenssens 0 voti
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does the computer recognize the cdj's at all? like a sound card? the 1st step is to confirm that ur pc is recognizing the cdj.

go to virtual dj and use settings to see if the cdj sound card is there. if it's not there, then it's either drivers or usb cable. so, try to uninstall the drivers. restart if you have to. then install the cdj 2000 nexus drivers clean and fresh. again, restart if you have to. then see if the cdj sound card is available to you. if it is, then the computer and the cdj are working together. if still nothing, then it's probably the usb cable. if the usb cable works with a different device, then it is indeed the cdj unit.

if the computer recognizes the cdj as a sound card, then virtual dj sould recognize the midi controller. go to virtual dj > settings > mappers > click on mappers settings and "rescan for new devices". show "midi" devices and "hid" devices. i don't have nexus, so i don't know if it's midi or hid. from here on out, you are on your own. i've given u all the help i can think of. if something else comes to mind, i'll let u know.

dj shahar 0 voti
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yea, so there is a software by pioneer... at least for the cdj 2000. pioneer cdj version display utility. it also tells you if the cdj is connected. that should help you identify if the pc recognizes the cdj.

dj shahar 0 voti
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Everything that you mention here i try all.When i turn on the virtual dj,go to setting & then mapper setting "rescan for new devices" it show nothing.But,i go to "simple midi wrapper" i can assign.As i know,like the cdj900,850,400,2000 when you connect with virtual dj,it will automaticly detect and will show up all the mapper thing.But this cdj2000 nxs dindn't work at all...

Dvjkitz 0 voti
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let's start from the beginning..

use the pioneer software to see if it detects the cdj.

does it detect the cdj?

dj shahar 0 voti
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I have to say, this is a bit of a doozy..

ok. so pioneer software detects it. does windows audio detect it?

cdj 2000 nexus as a default sound card... from control panel?

dj shahar 0 voti
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@ Shahar

Just follow this.

Step 1. Install drivers CDJ Nexus & Asio4ll

Step 2. Connect your CDJ nexus to your laptop

Step 3. Open VDJ

Step 4. Go to Sound Setup.

Step 5. Go advanced config

Step 6. Deck One CDJ nexus 1 & Deck Two CDJ Nexus 2

Step 7. Ad Rekord Loopback if you want 2 rekord or broadcastyour set  

Step 8. Link your CDJ to VDJ

Step 9. It can happen that 2 CDJ's play on 1 deck on your laptop. If so go to mappers in your sound setup and assign your deck correct.

 

 

 

Kris Adriaenssens 0 voti
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If your still having problems try login in on vdj website and downloading the mapper settings for the nexus and install unless your running a cracked version if vdj it won't work unless it's the new updated release.

Djcgamble 0 voti
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why are you using virtual dj with cdj's..... this has never made sense to me why people are fake djs. F VDJ and Traktor. Beat match by ear bud!

Cyndicate 0 voti
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you guys are barking at the wrong tree.

  1. i am using a registered version of virtual dj. i get all the updates for free.
  2. i am using 2 cdj 2000's mk1. not the nexus. and they are all working fine.
  3. even though this was my topic about mk1 vs. nexus, inre: vdj, and dvkitz hijacked my topic, i'm trying to help out a fellow pioneer user.

so..

@dvkitz, follow Kris's advise, and see where that gets you. those instructions are fully accurate. also, djcgamble makes a valid argument: if you are using an old version of vdj, then you are out of luck. support for the cdj2kn has only been added AFTER, it's release. if you are a registered pro user, then dl the newest version of virtual dj and that should solve everything.

dj shahar 0 voti
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Hello people. I am a Pro user of rekordbox serato, vdj  and tractor. I use both a complete set nexus as well as various midi controller and am technically savvy and fit especially in dealing with all the programs.

I always find it extremely funny when VDJ user insulted here and be down. when i user vdj in a club and one of these people begin to laugh i tell them: Just a moment, open serato or rekordbox and play the following time with it... then i ask him (is this music better now?!?!) Damn!  One was clarified. Rekordbox is great, BUT only if it works just fine. and that is in the minority of cases, the case. I am working with a database of around 700 gb LEGAL Music.

Rekordbox crashing as opposed to virtual dj! Now before anyone asks I have tried it with mac and windows 7. Starting with the scan of the title. Comment by Rekordbox was it could be because not as 10,000 titles that can be managed. Ridiculous. Serato crashes even with some people and see. Due to a faulty titels ... something can not be. All of these problems are not with virtual dj.

All these things only once in advance so ....

But now I have a question for the times, use the vdj with nexus ... how can it be that the cue buttons respond well initially but after an hour or 2 or sometimes do not work properly? latency?

Christian Deejay Liedmann 0 voti
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There is nothin wrong or 'unprofessional' at all about vdj. It does all and more than any other that cost twice the price the sheep buy. Same can be said about macbooks and a laptop half the price, you 'think' its better because everybody else has it or because Superstar dj joe bloggs uses it. At least with vdj you don't need to waste more money on a video license etc etc. you get it all as standard.

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VDJ is a lot better software than a lot of people realize.  Some of the more recent features such as netsearch , recommendations and cloud are brilliant if you have a good wireless connection. 

I only ever buy tracks legitimately, but to be able to do a quick search in VDJ and find a track you have never heard of for a request is quite a feature.

I bought it in 2004 and have never had to pay for an update.   I don't use it very much now, relying on sd cards and ext hd in my Nexus.

The main criticism people have had have been around the style of the program which is not necessarily as professional looking as Traktor, depending on taste.  But there are a lot of different skins you can use, which no other dj software can offer.

 

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