if you need time code cd's is there plans for native support in the near future
[SOLVED] CDJ 2000 nexus and serato
Will the new cdj 2000 nexus work natively with serato out of the box or will we have to wait for a firmware update.
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sorry brian, i'm just a user like you and don't know. i was just clearing up the change in terminology. your question needs to be asked of Serato as it is their job to add the code to their software. my guess would be 'yes' as they were the quickest off the mark to support the Advanced HID on the CDJ 2000 but it is only a guess.
Know I will use timecode CDs and Rekordbox until a new upgrade of serato (if they want to do it...).
Is there the same problem with Tracktor?
@Phil, I'm in the North of France. Here the new CDJ 2000 nexus are in shop since monday
Confirmation about HID Advanced on the Serato forum by the owners: no HID Advanced on the new CDJ 2000 nexus!
" DJSabella 7:15 PM - 20 September, 2012
Thanks Dave. Is the CDJ 2000 Nexus a completely new format than the CDJ 2000 which I already own and have no issues with. Pioneer is telling me differently. They state nothing has been lost in the new player, However in speaking with people on the forums. HID Advanced does not exist on the new Nexus. Has serato had any conversations with Pioneer about the native support issue for the Nexus"
Perhaps in the next update of the firmware, 'cause the function was annonced, as said Northrider 23
I'm a Traktor user here, just got my 2000 Nexus's and I can confirm that HID does not work using Traktor either.
Lets stop with the "Why would you do that?" and work on fixing the problem. Many of us like very flexible setups. Sometimes we like using the software, other times we just take the decks and play of sticks (I use Traktor at home, the decks only when I play out).
The whole "HID Standard/HID Advanced" thing was just a mode setting on the 2000 MK1. Meaning, "Advanced" wasn't some special feature, it was just an HID mode with more features for more complex software.
I'm hoping that Pioneer is just supporting one full mode of HID on this player.
Unfortunately that means now we wait. And wait. And wait. Last time it took NI over 2 years to get HID for the 2000. In fact it just came out this summer.
Traktor / Serato are the one that needs to code it in, bitch at them :)
Still, Pioneer should have given them units pre-release to develop off it. This is a flagship product! Don't take away features.
couldnt agree more, they should definitely be given one, same as some people should be given them for strong beta testing
We can bitch at the software companies all we want but, truth be told, Pioneer is the one advertising the feature, and as far as I'm reading there isn't even an HID option in the players (I will have mine by this Wednesday). These players are the most expensive in the market, Think how your clients would feel if you didn't honor your contact as advertised (not a very good business practice). Can someone from pioneer let us know what's being done in regards to this issue.
right, but they say """"DJ software MIDI/HID control""""" which means the decks ARE ready to control the software via MIDI or HID, the decks have it built in, there is no longer a need to select advanced or regular so thats why people "think" its not included, they just dont know what they are talking about. When I hook up sera to, press link and conect to deck 1, i can fully map a Nexus minus the platter, once serato/traktor decides to code in HID for the nexus, it will work. No one (as far as I read) on pioneers end ever said or advertised that HID could control serato out of the box, thats up to serato and traktor now to get their engineers on board quickly,
again, This is not putting total blame on them, Pioneer could have offered them a deck to get the work done before release but you cant expect either for pioneer to hold back a release of a deck because serato and traktor are not ready for HID, that part is not pioneers fault.
Do you need to use timecode discs?
With HID support, no, no timecode discs.
In the current state (where Serato and NI haven't yet implemented HID for this deck), you can certainly use timecode discs with the players and use Serato/Traktor Scratch. Even better, you can put the timecode signal onto an SD card and play off of that.
Just saw this in the CDJ 2000 Nexus pioneer site Q&A Section. Just wondering on timeframe at this point....
HID control is scheduled to be supported with Native Instruments’ “TRAKTOR”, Serato’s “Scratch Live” and Atomix’ “VirtualDJ”.
well i just got my new cdj 2000 nexus out the box today and yep they got no hid setting cant get them to work native with serato thats a pain!!!!
Really is a pain just transferred most of my database to rb just another 3607 songs to analyse and im good, really thought pioneer would of left the Advanced Hid option in the utility menu withe the nexus. hopefully there is an update soon.
The Nexus now work with HID in Traktor Pro 2.6, but there are a few missing features (slip doesn't light up, start/brake don't work, reverse doesn't work). I'm hoping Serato can do a better job. I made a short demo video of the Traktor HID integration.
The slip button is definitely a bug. Reverse has never worked with traktor, because traktor doesn't have a reverse feature.
Same deal with brake and start. Those features were always handled by timecode.
I get that, but it's a shame. Traktor can handle the track going backwards, slowing up and speeding down at different rates etc, it just needs someone to implement the right control.
You know, I find it silly when the response by some users saying "you bought a Nexus setup just to use Serato" because while on the surface it might seem inefficient, here's a valid argument that is my real life situation at the moment.
I own 2 CDJ-850's controlling Scratch Live. The club I work for uses a Rane 62 as a mixer and just this week got a pair of CDJ-2000Nexus. They got it for the reason that there are some of us using Serato, another guy using Traktor, a few of us studying to use Rekordbox, but most importantly, whenever they bring a big EDM act into the club, we don't have to go try tracking down 2 or 4 of the 10 known CDJ-2000's (only 2 of which are Nexus's) around the entire state of Iowa.
Let's not kid ourselves, no matter what, the 2000 and the Nexus are two expensive players and it would be economical for the club to have a player, especially supposedly the best and most expensive, to be able to support all configurations from Rekordbox to Serato to Traktor, rather keeping it exclusively a non DVS supported player.
So everyone saying "why would you buy a Nexus rig just to run Scratch Live?" well there, I didn't buy it, the club did, now I have to use the beloved Nexus CDJ's in CD Timecode mode making the players no better than a shiny CDJ-1000. You tell me if that's properly using a Nexus2000.
Btw no blame on Pioneer, I love your products, and I am aware the update we are waiting for is from Serato.
And the point I was making was for an individual user, not a club. I do still find it silly for an individual DJ who owns their own stuff to buy the nexus decks if the ONLY intent is to control Serato, then yes, it's still a waste
I do understand where you are coming from. It was a similar case when people would buy CDJ-1000's back in the day and only use serato on it. The extra $600 of features were basically neutralized, you could have efficiently just used an 800. However, in many small cities and states, especially like mine in Iowa, while your preference to only use Serato on a Nexus is a bit of an overkill, imagine the 2 or 3 pairs here in my state that my scene is aware of. Those will be the go to guys when it's time to throw a big show with a big headliner who requests the Nexus. The rental offers will be amazing.
So, like I said, I agree, Nexus is an overkill for only use with Scratch Live, but the principle can be applied "better to have it and not need and than to need it and not have it."
While I'm happy with my 850's as my personal pair, I still think its necessary for the 2000Nxs to support HID control because of the club installation factor.
better to have it and not need and than to need it and not have it.
Did everyone get their respective answer in this thread?
I'll take that as a yes, then.