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[CLOSED] Next Cdj's

Wanted to make a thread on what i would like to see on either the current cdj or the future cdjs.  Feel free to add any of your wish list.  I do not own the cdj 2000 nexus yet I am waiting till all the bugs get fixed, so i'll will only comment on what I would want as far as updates and features in future cdjs.  

  1. Update the cdj 2000 nexus or the future cdjs with the quanitze on the fly needle jump feature.  Been asking for this for a couple years now, hope this feature does not get over looked.  This would allow the user to utilize the needle search to jump any where in the track and stay in beat.  There should be two modes to utilize this feature one being snap mode which would allow the user to touch the needle strip and the track will jump instantly to that point.  The second mode would be standard which would work when the user releases there finger off the needle strip.  

 

  1. Allow rekordbox to be incorperated in the cdjs itself.  This would most likely be for future cdjs as it may need a internal hardware upgrade.  This would allow on the fly track analyzing, so as soon as the user picks a track the cdj will analyze the track it should take 10-20 seconds max which would allow non analyzed tracks to have waveforms, beat grids, markers and measure counts.  Measure counts would be utilized more for when using the quantize beat jump feature during standard mode when touching the needle strip a red line will pop up showing how many measures in the the track your at.  Also in settings the user could use the cdjs to allow backround analyzing of the tracks.  For instance if one where to connect a 32 gig usb or put in a cd it will analyze all the tracks in the backround while still analyzing the current track being used.  The user can utilize waveform zooming and beatgrid adjusting to allow more tighter beatgrids on the fly.

  2. Allow a remix mode which would essentially work either two ways.  One being that one cdj can play a live track which the audience would only be able to hear while in remix mode this live track will play uninterrupted and the dj can stop, play rewind, fastforward, add hot cue's ect.. while not interrupting with the actual live track.  The main function of remix mode is to allow the dj to jump anywhere in the track and remix a particular section.  So lets say the user jumps 3 minutes into a track then remix a measure anywhere between 2-64 beats.  The remix mode would utilize the needle strip to either beatslice the choosen measure or feedback loop essentailly remixing part of the track on the fly.  Then when the user is happy with the results the dj can back out of remix mode and the live uninterrupted track can for this case reach the 3 minute mark and play the remix vs the original track.  If the live track would pass up the mark that the user is trying to remix he can always back out of remix mode when the dj is done and utiize the quantize needle jump feature to go before or on the remix itself.  There should be a safe mode when utiilizing this feature so when the live track is about to end the last 4-32 beats would loop automatically.  

If this feature is not possible on one cdj itself then a work around would allow the dj to use doubles of a track so the right deck is what the audience is listening to while the same track is being edited on the second left deck so when adding hot cues and loops and remixes on the left deck it will automatically send the information to the right live deck and vice versa.  

  1. Allow an additional "D" hot cue button which would allow more loops and hot cues to be implemented.  

  2. Allow sample mode to go along with standard mode when using the hot cue buttons.  So in standard mode the hot cue buttons would allow recording hot cues and loops but when the user switches in sample mode the buttons would save anwhere from 2-64 beats each button and it will store into the cdj itself. So even if you disconnect the cdj it will still save till you erase or dub over the samples.  This is great for mobile djs to add acapellas and dj drops and scratch samples.  This feature would also allow sampling live on the fly or just adding samples before hand.  Essentially the user can take a track use up all the four hot cue's then switch to sample mode and allow the user to add samples so the user would have four hot cues and or loops along with 4 more samples to work with.  Color should change from red hot cues to white for samples.  

  3. Allow more different colored waveform options to choose from.  Also allow an editing feature so the user can customize anwhere in the track specific color codings for instance if the user would want breakdowns to be a diffrent color or have the drive of the track to have a different color ect.. This is more of a cool feature rather than a needed one.  But I think djs would love this feature.  Two modes can be used to utilize this feature one being automatic so the user can go to settings and say I want all breakdowns that are detected to be this color and so forth.  The other mode would be manually editing the waveforms of each track within the cdjs.  

  4.  I don't know how much more expensive it will be since the technology has been out for awhile but allowing mp4 playback to mix with videos would be ideal. 

  5.  Allow the cdjs to change channels on your tv essentially becoming a universal remote control,  also allow it to be a midi controller to do your laundry....nevermind I went to far....

 

DJ NVASION

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Pioneer had a feedback thing going for the CDJ a few days ago, did you catch that? It was up and down pretty quick. 

#8 is kind of funny to me. I'm and old fart now who got a PC before anyone cared about the Internet. Back when you paid companies by the hour to be online using their 56K connection. My point being when I got my first computer I was one of those guys who opened the CD drive and thought, that's cool they give you a cup holder :-\ I think I even put my drink on it. 

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Yeah I put my 2 cents when it was up. And many more suggestions the last couple of years in the producut suggestions section.. Wanted to make this thread I would like to see where everyone is as far as what they would like to see in future cdjs and or current updates. Could be a interesting read for us pro djs. Lol on the cup holder.

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I really don't have huge complaints but probably because these 2KN are all I have known in the Pioneer line. My last dual CD Denon was many, many years ago. However I stand behind most all complaints just for the simple fact that if they can get better I want them too. 

My biggest issue is Rekordbox and I have stated I will leave my complaints about it in my own head however I still can agree to #2. I think they could do wonders with current equipment and and RB without a new CDJ, in fact if a new CDJ is needed I will be a little ticked as one of the reviews I read or watched before I purchased was that Pioneer made the Nexus some what future proof. Of course the Nexus will not last forever as the biggest and baddest but I hope there is some truth in the future proof comment. 

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What about a moving platter/ Touch sensitive ? A real turntable simulation. This is the only real big thing missing from the player for me. Ow and maybe full HD DVJ mode. But that's not someting I really really want.

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WHO CARES ABOUT THE NEXT CDJ.... I WANT THEM TO FIX THIS ONE WITH RB.. I TRULY BELIEVE THAT THE MARKET IS CDJ OVERLOADED. BESIDES THE BIG TIME DJS, 99% OF DJS ARE SHOWING UP WITH CONTROLLERS AND USING THE CDJ'S AND TT'S AS A TABLE FOR THERE LITTLE CONTROLLER..(REAL WORLD) AS SEXY AS THE CDJ SET UP IS. IT JUST NOT PRACTICAL ANYMORE TO SPEND 5K WHEN YOU CAN DO THE SAME THING FOR 1K OR LESS. YES YOU WILL ALWAYS HAVE US DJS THAT LOOK DOWN UPON THOSE DJS THAT DO THAT.... BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF THE DJ IS ROCKING THE CROWD WITH A CONTROLLER AND NOT CDJ'S... DOES IT REALLY MATTER? THE CROWD DON'T CARE WHAT THE DJ IS USING. ALL THEY CARE ABOUT IS HAVING A GOOD TIME AND HEARING GOOD TUNES. THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO CARE ARE US... THE DJS. SO LETS GET THESE CDJ'S FIXED FIRST BEFORE WE START TALKING ABOUT THE NEXT ONES.... CAUSE IN 2 - 3 YRS THE DJ WORLD IS GONNA BE TOTALLY DIFFERENT THEN IT IS NOW... 

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I for one care about what would be implemented in the next cdj as well as the djs who so far commented.  Midi's in my opinion are way more saturated then cdjs at this point in time.  If you seen my begining post I explained that I do not own the current cdj 2000 nexus because I am waiting till the bugs get fixed which I believe that pioneer will have everything right with either the next update or two.  If not pioneer needs to restructure there quality control.  

 

There are countless threads on this forum regarding those matters so this thread is really about updates you would like to see on the current cdj or the next cdj.  Because all the suggestions I would like to see on the current 2000 nexus can most likely only be implemented with a hardware upgrade I choose to only speak on the the next cdj which in my opinion will be coming with in 3 years time.  

 

Midi's will always have a place just like cdjs but the future in djing as I see it really is about remixing and producing tracks on the fly. In the next few years there will be more and more djs remixing tracks and layering sounds to create new music on the fly.  I think there is enough engineers that work on future products and current products of Pioneer so talking about future products can have a impact on the tools us djs need to create are work.   

I agree though they need to fix the current cdjs I really want to own them once everything is working how it should.  

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Ok, Here is what I would like. This may not be 100% CDJ and might move into a DJM but here it goes.

I understand my wants here will meet negativity from some but just remember we now have SYNC and other things that have allowed the DJ to do other things or just stand there with free time on his hands. My point is my ideas are along the same lines.

 

First I would like the equipment to recognize (Highs, Mids and Lows) and AUTO adjust as needed to blend in perfectly when mixing 2 songs. 

I also would like (Maybe a RB issue) when your songs are analyzed it can tell if one song will be louder than the other and will correct the volumes automatically. I guess there is PLAT. Notes that will fix that but it would be nice if RB could handle that instead and or the CDJ/DJM will auto adjust volume to adjust for the difference

Heck why not just show the 2 CDJ's the 2 songs I want mixed and it does it for me.  ;-) 

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in RB/CDJ it tells you what 2 songs will match up like  MIK. are we not that far of? 

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DJing maybe a dying breed. Equipment that allows almost anyone to mash their music together for cheap. SOrt of the anger a band once had when they would do weddings and the DJ took over and a band at a wedding is not very common.now... 

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Smaller compact controllers are taking over the DJ industry. And i'm sure Pioneer realizes it as well. The DDJ-SX does everything and more a CDJ can do. And since a lot of middle of the road clubs cant and wont drop 5k everytime new dj gear comes out. The DJ ends up bring his or her own gear... And they are bringing controllers. As small as "JUST" a Kontrol X1... And if you were a mobil dj back in the day when there was just Technic 1200's? You remember having to lug all your gear and records around... It sucked. So just like the mobile dj went smaller and compact, so shall clubs... The super clubs will have the bigtime gear. But i'm sure that will change sooner or later as well. Pioneer needs to perfect this player and overhual RB and just contine to pump these cdj's out like Technics did for 35yrs... And work on controllers for those who want compact, easy to use, practical.

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@hardstyle, I agree with the volumn auto detection.  That would be a good update for rekordbox and a future djm mixer to allow this feature.  Also agree that djing as we know it has significantly changed so hopefully future cdjs along with djm mixers will allow more remixing tools and implementations to allow more creativity which I really think is the future of djing, remixing on the fly and layering sounds to create new tracks live.   

Midi's made a major impact in the dj market the last few years,  I still think there is a market for both cdjs and djm mixer or midi and software even in the next few years.  In my opinion pioneer needs to knock it out of the park with the next cdjs and mixer where it will have a life span of at least 5 years if not more.  This would mean more implementations then ever before and a significant hardware upgrade.

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