DJM900 NXS2 Echo Decay Issue + Video explanation

I think in the DJM800 turning from 12 o'clock to max would also increase the decay.
In the 900nxs2 12-max acts more like a traditional wet dry knob and from 12 onwards starts fading out the original signal.  That's why you hear the gap in your video when you turn up the fader with echo at max.
I preferred the 800 that increased the tail on the echo too.  I wonder if it could be a firmware update?

I'm wondering if there is some other setting that we are missing then to change that parameter. A 2 second echo isn't very helpful for me. :( 

Hopefully they do target it for a firmware update.

Yeah.  I'd swap out any Beat FX to have an Echo that acted closer to the djm800.

That Echo tail is just too short.  The Helix effect can work as a work-around for a simple echo with a long tail.  But the djm800 echo had some soul and warmth to it.  I LOVED IT.  The 900 echo's sounds like a cold digital loop to me... and you're right, the tail is far too short.

Fingers crossed for a firmware update.

Thank you for the reply Pulse.

For me, the Roll effect is not really a replacement for being able to extend the decay time on the echo, because often times I will hold the echo for a quarter beat, but have the quarter beat loop once every fourth beat.  

I think this is why there are quite a few requests throughout the forum for a "Feedback loop" function.  

I know it's a tall ask, but do you think you may be able to review this feedback with your engineering teams and see if there is away to have the level/depth focus on decay or make this more user configurable? 

The delay is a single-tap, the echo is a multi-tap, the roll is a loop. They're all different even if they seem to do a similar effect.

Thank you again for engaging in this conversation with me Pulse. I really appreciate it.

I was just getting at the tail being so short on the echo that it seems to behave more like a single tap than a multi-tap.

I realized I was making an unnecessary jab at the effect and the hard work you all do, so I deleted that part of my reply a few minutes after I submitted it, but apparently not quickly enough for you to not see it, lol.

Please discuss the effect internally a little more and look at these other requests that are getting at the same thing (https://forums.pioneerdj.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/206028903-DJM-900nxs2-feedback-loop-request).  

Every other mixer I have ever owned (Rane 57, Rane sixty-eight, DJM-S9) all had the capability of allowing the user to control how long the echo would continue. I realize that with a RMX unit/app I could do this, but I just feel like that is the only feature that is really missing from the mixer that would make it perfect if it was included.  

One possible solution would be to make level/depth more like the sound color fx that control multiple parameters simultaneously while turning the single knob. So maybe attach both the dry/wet curve and the decay curve to the same knob.  

I understand if this isn't the direction your company wants to go, but please consider my feedback and talk other high caliber artists and see if it is something they would consider to be a great addition. My guess is that the majority would say yes, especially those that play in the techno, tech house, deep house, and electronica genres. Thank you again for the consideration.

Just want to +1 this idea

If we could have the echo effects tail increase with the Level/Depth parameter (As well as the wet/dry of the echo) that'd be such an improvement to the echo.

I know it's a corner-stone effect for a lot of dj's and with the FX-Frequency control of the 900nxs2 it holds so much potential to be, not only as good as the trusty djm800's echo, but far surpass it.