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[SOLVED] Are the Search buttons broken on my unit? If I click twice to go forward 8 bars, should it not still remain sync'd with the other track?

Also, why does it move only a tiny tiny bit when the track is not playing?

chris van horn

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I don't understand why I'd have to re-beatmatch after hitting them twice, moving me 8 bars forward or back? It moves me slightly less than 8 bars.

chris van horn 0 votes
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Is there not any way at all to beat jump then? Seems logical that it could be a feature added through a software menu option.

chris van horn 0 votes
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But why can't that be added as a future feature? For me it seems to very logic that the RX is advertised as THE rekordbox solution, while it's missing features from rekordbox or shows different behaviours. In rekordbox I can change the behaviour of the search buttons, why not on the RX? In rekordbox I can display the remaining beats or bars until the next cue point, on the RX only the bars. In rekordbox I have different color shemes, why not on the RX?

Don't get me wrong, I love my RX, but for me it doesn't feel like a complete rekordbox integration.

Voke 0 votes
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Would be nice to have options, wouldn't it? Pioneer doesn't seem interested in feedback from customers.

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@Voke > It won't be added as a feature because every other CDJ since the 90's has used the << and >> buttons as search / seek buttons, not beat-jump buttons, and this provides a consistency across models.

Take this scenario for example... A club has an RX installed and the DJ arrives, starts playing and wants to seek ahead in the song so he presses the >> button, but instead of scanning the expected amount, it's jumping ahead. There is no indicator as to how the button is configured, if it were a menu option he'd then have to go into the settings and change it to his desired performance mode. Rather than risk a difference in standard operation, the operation mode of the button(s) will not change unless there is an obvious method to perform additional operations; eg, a shift-button to give a second layer of function to that button.

@chris > Pioneer certainly does incorporate feedback from customers -- the XDJ-1000 has beat-jump options on its touch-screen controls.

Pulse 0 votes
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I don't understand why that scenario matters if the default behavior is to have the RX's search buttons function as is, but offer an option in Settings to change it to a beat jump feature. There are customizable settings that come along you when using Rekordbox... why should this be no different?

You make note of "every CDJ since the 90's has used << and >> buttons as search / seek buttons" but these aren't CDJs. If the XDJ-1000 has beat jump, isn't that even more reason to have included that as the behavior opposed to random interval search backward/forward? This is the *XDJ*-RX.

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@Chris > The reasoning is that DJs moving from one product to another, even from CDJ to XDJ, will not need to re-learn something; their muscle-memory will allow them to press the >> button and get the expected response; a seek forward.

Customizable settings aren't used by most DJs as they're not familiar with using them. Look across these forums and you'll see that many DJs don't even know how to use auto cue or why when in CDJ mode the audio "loops" when they press play/pause. And this is exactly why this function will not change anytime soon. Sorry!

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How would ANYONE need to re-learn something if it's an option that has to be enabled beyond the default behavior? In the world of DJing, pushing a button and not expecting it to be a set interval is pretty strange. It just seeks forward some random interval? I can't imagine a SINGLE reason why anyone would want that, but okay, let's say they do... why wouldn't the option to change it be a good idea? It doesn't hurt anyone to have options.

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In fact... is there a single good reason as to why seek forward or backward just... moves some random undetermined interval forward or backward? Have DJ's got used to a search forward moving 3.2913 bars/seconds? I just don't see your reasoning here.

chris van horn 0 votes
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The change has already begun in the fact that the XDJ-1000 has beat-jump options on the touchscreen. As previously mentioned, it is highly unlikely that anything will change on existing models.

Pulse 0 votes
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Appreciate the non-answer. How can a company be so ignorant as to ignore the power of software updates? Really sad.

chris van horn 0 votes
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I wonder how every iPhone would be if it had the same iOS feature set as the day it was sold. God forbid Apple or any other company would push features to it or update it to make it more powerful. What a joke.

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And if the change has "already begun in the fact that the XDJ-1000 has beat-jump options" then why wouldn't a product released AFTER the XDJ-100 follow through with those changes? You aren't making any sense.

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@Chris > Software updates arrive frequently - the problem you're describing is hardware-based. The buttons are traditionally for SEEKING through the track, not beat-jumping. An iPhone whose volume buttons suddenly adjusted the brightness of the display would be a close approximation of this kind of change, but that's a consumer product, not a professional tool. The fact that the XDJ-RX was announced 2 months after to the XDJ-1000 doesn't mean that they will contain the same functions. They're two different products, two different feature sets. The XDJ-1000 has a touch-screen to accommodate the beat-jump feature, the RX does not and as such, the RX seek buttons are ONLY seek buttons.

Listen, I understand your desire to have this functionality in the product, but it's highly unlikely to happen because Pioneer maintains familiar functionality across all products. I'm sorry if you don't want to accept this answer, but the answer has been given and with that, I'm afraid I have nothing further to add to this conversation.

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Lack of beatjump on the XDJ-RX is a big big Pioneer´s mistake. There are hundreds of post about it, but the answer is clear: feature not supported/not able to implement.

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