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Rekordbox doesn't Save my Ratings

Hi, 

I'm using latest version of Rekordbox, 4.2.2 and I've been organizing all my playlists to find out after rating  more than 2000 tracks... THEY ARE ALL GONE. 

I tried to rate the same track 3 times, and every time I open and close it, it's not saved. Some tracks, that where import from iTunes via Sync Manager are still rated, but the majority of them NO. This is kinda of sick actually.

Is it a bug? Is there a work around? 

Thanks for your help

Gustavo Lima

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Yeah from what I can tell I really wouldn't bother editing anything in Rekordbox, it doesn't save anything but Key to the actual mp3s [via ID3] (you have to tell it to). I understand the reasoning behind this, but when it is marketed as a an organisation tool it really sucks. The alternative is just to manage your music in iTunes but 3 massive pitfalls with this are...

1. The new automatic iTunes album ratings (when you rate a track in an album) are brought across into rekordbox as track ratings

2. If you have iTunes manage your filing (which is the most logical way to have it) then if you edit some info say 'album artist' it re-files everything which means in Rekordbox it can't find it, so you have to either find each track one by one (to not lose all the analysis or info you have added in rekordbox) or you have to bring them all back in and start from scratch info and analysis wise.

3. Rekordbox has far more information tags than iTunes, so you end up, as a work around, using things like 'Genre' for 'Label' or 'Grouping' for 'Date discovered' (As date added is so unreliable)

Peace.

p.s. Also from what I can tell this forum isn't very well monitored/responded to :( its sad because they have such great products.

 

Sam 0 votes
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We're here, we're just very busy. ;)

@Gustavo > The ID3 rating certainly is written to the track, but there are some conditions where it won't be read properly. Can you please walk me through the process you took?

Pulse 0 votes
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Hey Pulse ;) 

Well I found the problem, I think. If by any chance you select the option "Sync iTunes Playlists" in the Sync Manager basically everything overwrites your current collection of tracks and you lose precious info. I think this has something to do with the way Pioneer coded the interaction between both apps. The files become Read-Only in Rekordbox. 

My steps were easy... the tracks I had in the beginning came from drag n drop playlists from itunes explorer in Rekordbox. All good, no problems. Then I remembered, well this can be much easier if I keep iTunes in sync. I was wrong as it destructed all my ratings. 

The solution I've found was to disable the option on Sync Manager, and without having to do anything... I could rate tracks again and it was saved. 

This is annoying and not very "productive" in any mean. I use Rekordbox as my organisation and preparation suite for the USB pens. I had to go back again and rate 1500+ tracks. My fix is stupid and should not be the way things work. I fixed yeah, but it shouldn't be like this. When you do SYNC ITUNES in Sync Manager what it should do is to simply  "automatically drag n drop playlists and the paths for the files" into Rekordbox OWN LIBRARY. simple :) 

Gustavo Lima 0 votes
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Thanks for the reply -- it seems there are so many problems with iTunes syncing that I just don't recommend it (personally). I just have all my music on an external drive, I drop the music into whichever software I need to use it in. End of story.

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Yeah Pulse, but you see this thing works good with other softwares. And you just can't force people to do it that way :) 

For me it's easier to be able to create "digital crates" (aka playlists) with my stuff. I like to keep all my digital music very tidy... Genre, Year, Month, all with folders :) 

But yeah, the goal is not to check the sync itunes box and do it manually! 

Gustavo Lima 0 votes
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As long as users are aware that there may be limitations and problems CAUSED BY iTunes, I have no problem with it, but when they have something like "Allow iTunes to manage my music" and then wonder why songs go missing in rekordbox when they change the name of a song in iTunes, they are the ones to blame, not Pioneer DJ, not rekordbox.

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"As long as users are aware that there may be limitations and problems CAUSED BY iTunes, I have no problem with it, but when they have something like "Allow iTunes to manage my music" and then wonder why songs go missing in rekordbox when they change the name of a song in iTunes" <-- totally agree on this, iTunes in many ways sucks. I still use Winamp for everything.. iTunes is just to create playlists so I can import them easily to Rekordbox and Traktor. 

You can't blame Pioneer for iTunes of course not. But If there is this problem, look at what NI did wit traktor... it only allows you to take the playlist from itunes and put it on your library collection. That should be the way to go so user who aren't that experienced don't suffer! Just my 2 cents to make Rekordbox even a better solution :) 

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