XDJ RX2 quantize to one beat issue

Just an update to hopefully clarify a bit more,

This only happens on loops saved to the hot cue banks with quantize on and quantize beat value set to 1 beat, there is no snap to 1 beat, you can fire the pad of rapidly as if it has no quantize on. So my loops are out of sync, when I drop them in unless I am millisecond accurate.... Cue points saved to the hot cue banks, work absolutely perfect always snapping to 1 beat.

All other quantize beat values (1/2, 1/4, 1/8) behave exactly as they should, Both cue points and loops on the hot cue banks snap correctly. I had the same issue on the original firmware aswell, thats why I updated to 1.23.

Thanks again,

Adi

Hello, has this a working solution yet? I‘m having the exact same problem. It used to work before the Firmware update.

Thanks (it’s urgent!)

I played around a bit and figured out, that when I use Rekordbox in Performance Mode instead of the standalone method, it’s vice versa. The 1-Beat quantize only works for loops and not for cuepoints. To specify more detailed:

Standalone
Quantize off: I can trigger the cuepoints and cueloops without any quantization.

Quantize on: I can trigger the cuepoints at 1-beat quantization but cueloops are not triggered quantized, just like quantize is turned off. 1/2 beat works fine but is very unsafe for gigs.

Rekordbox
Quantize off: I can trigger the cuepoints and cueloops without any quantization.

Quantize on: Just the opposite... I can trigger the cueloops at 1-beat quantization but cuepoints are not triggered quantized, just like quantize is turned off.

Please provide any information available.

Thanks in advance

GanBaretto

Hi again Pioneer,

Any news or an acknowledgement regarding this issue? Whether it will be or is possible to be fixed in an software update or do I have a faulty unit?..... If it is a faulty unit, I could return it to the retailer asap...

Thanks

@Adi - Have you tried using the quantize feature as I explained in Rekordbox Performance Mode? Can you agree to my discovery?

@Pioneer - I also need any information you can provide at this point, I have some gigs coming and at the moment I am not able to perform as usual!

Thanks

@Pioneers official comment:

My setting is on Beat Sync value and not on BPM Sync but it doesn't work, unfortunately.

GanBaretto

Explain exactly what it is you're doing that isn't working as expected.

Hello,

Thanks so much for the reply Pioneer DJ...

In response to the Pioneer DJ @Official comment, below my original post.... I am only talking about on the XDJ RX2 unit itself in standalone mode & no pc connection, not the Recordbox software as shown in your picture.

This is regarding loops made and saved to the Hotkey pads either in RekordBox and exported to the XDJ RX2 via usb stick or manually saving a loop to the hot cue pads on the XDJ RX2 unit itself ..... When the quantize beat value (Deck) when it is set to 1 beat (The prefered & usual setting)... it has no quantize at all or it is working as though it is set to 1/8th of a beat....

All tracks were analized on RekordBox in normal mode with beat/bpm sync type set to Beat Sync. They all work fine on RekordBox in either performance or Export mode. They all work fine on CDJ2000nxs2... Snapping to 1 beat

Any help would be greatly appreciated...

Thanks Again :)

Ah - thanks for the clarification, the problem is a HOT LOOP! I missed that detail in an earlier post, that was the difference. I'll pass that along.

The engineers have been able to replicate this and will be addressing it in a future update. Thanks for the feedback!

Hello Pioneer, is there any update yet? I'm losing all my opportunities to play in the club at the moment. Please mark this issue as critical and provide a hotfix very soon, please don't wait for a major update as this is a core functionality that's not given at the moment. I was tzalking to the german support at pioneer and the guy on the phone could also clearly reproduce the failure.

Please reply soon

Michael

My detailed findings XDJ RX2 in standalone mode not connected to RekordBox DJ software or PC/ Mac, the whole point of this unit, Firmware 1.30.... All tests with quantize button turned on... I have tried my hardest to explain as clearly as I can...

1. Cue points assigned to the 8 hot cue/loop pads

(Beat Sync turned off - Quantize turned on)

Quantize beat value - 1 beat (Quantize is snapping to grid 1 beat but drifts out more each time you retrigger pad, so not locking to the grid/ beat)

Quantize beat value - 1/2 beat (Quantize is snapping to grid 1/2 beat but drifts out more each time you retrigger pad, so not locking to the grid/ beat)

Quantize beat value - 1/4 beat (Quantize is snapping to grid 1/4 beat but drifts out more each time you retrigger pad, so not locking to the grid/ beat)

Quantize beat value - 1/8 beat (Quantize is snapping to grid 1/8 beat but drifts out more each time you retrigger pad, so not locking to the grid/ beat)

2. Loops assigned to the 8 hot cue/loop pads

(Beat Sync turned off - Quantize turned on)

Quantize beat value - 1 beat (no quantize value on it what so ever, you can trigger pad rapidly to prove this & drifts out more & more each retrigger, so not locking to the grid/ beat)

Quantize beat value - 1/2 beat (Quantize is snapping to grid 1/2 beat but drifts out more each time you retrigger pad, so not locking to the grid/ beat)

Quantize beat value - 1/4 beat (Quantize is snapping to grid 1/4 beat but drifts out more each time you retrigger pad, so not locking to the grid/ beat)

Quantize beat value - 1/8 beat (Quantize is snapping to grid 1/8 beat but drifts out more each time you retrigger pad, so not locking to the grid/ beat)

And now with Beat Sync button switched on, Quantize turned on) Sync button light flashing proves that they go out of sync

1. Cue points assigned to the 8 hot cue/loop pads

(Beat Sync turned on - Quantize turned on) Sync button light proves that they go out of sync

Quantize beat value - 1 beat (Quantize is snapping to grid 1 beat works absolutely perfect, stays totally locked in sync to the grid, every time pad is re triggered, this is how all the quantize beat values should behave snapping to the grid/ beat and the same way Rekordbox DJ software performs)

Quantize beat value - 1/2 beat (Quantize is snapping to grid 1/2 beat but loses sync more each time you retrigger pad, sync light then starts flashing - out of sync, so not locking to the grid/ beat)

Quantize beat value - 1/4 beat (Quantize is snapping to grid 1/4 beat but loses sync more each time you retrigger pad, sync light then starts flashing - out of sync, so not locking to the grid/ beat)

Quantize beat value - 1/8 beat (Quantize is snapping to grid 1/8 beat but loses sync more each time you retrigger pad, sync light then starts flashing - out of sync, so not locking to the grid/ beat)

2. Loops assigned to the 8 hot cue/loop pads

(Beat Sync turned on - Quantize turned on) Sync button light flashing proves that they go out of sync

Quantize beat value - 1 beat (no quantize value on it what so ever, you can trigger pad rapidly to prove this, does awful catch up thing, dragging loop back in sync, sounds awful, unusable but when in drags itself into sync stays locked tight, until you trigger the pad again, sync light on constant not flashing. Renders loops totally useless!!!! my main reason for getting the XDJ RX2)

Quantize beat value - 1/2 beat (Quantize is snapping to grid 1/2 beat but loses sync more each time you retrigger pad, sync light then starts flashing - out of sync, so not locking to the grid/ beat)

Quantize beat value - 1/4 beat (Quantize is snapping to grid 1/4 beat but loses sync more each time you retrigger pad, sync light starts then starts flashing - out of sync, so not locking to the grid/ beat)

Quantize beat value - 1/8 beat (Quantize is snapping to grid 1/8 beat but loses sync more each time you retrigger pad, sync then light starts flashing - out of sync, so not locking to the grid/ beat)

Please help Pioneer.... It is unusable at the moment...

Adi

Do we have a statement, how long it's going to take to get a hotfix? Have you guys started investigating, yet?

Hi, I raised a ticket with Pioneer, they emailed me back acknowledging the issues. They said they will be fixed in the next update which will be released by the end of this month (April 2017) Fingers crossed...

Adi

Hi, This Problem continiu.. Issues with Pioneer XDJ-RX2- Pressing HOT cues delayed with quantize function. I mark my cues and many times when I press the buttons (right on the beat, when the drop comes etc), it's delayed 1 beat, after then the cue plays (it not happens every time). 

we are waiting for solution

@Aytac > Have you updated the firmware on your RX2?

Yes of course firmware 1,32 updated.

@Aytac > Have you disabled the quantize function or confirmed the quantize values?

Los problemas continúan con la versión 1.32, standalone

Sync En modo 1 beat funciona perfecto,se sincroniza incluso con un backspin, hot cue, hot loop, etc

En modo 1 / 2 1/4 y 1/8 no funciona, se desincroniza al pulsar cualquier hot cue, el boton sync parpadea, hay que pulsar dos veces para volver a estar en modo sync(error importante)

Se prueba con los mismos puntos   memorrycue / hotcues / hotloops

Esperamos futura solución, gracias

Did this ever get fixed?

The operation of the LOOP function changes depending on whether you have quantize on or off...

1. Load and start a track on either channel
2. Enable quantize
3. Create a loop 
4. Using CUE/CALL LOOP arrows left + right now controls the length of the loop. 

Result: QUANTIZED LOOP

5. Disable quantize
6. Using CUE/CALL LOOP arrows left + right still controls the length of the loop, but now the track also jumps to the start of the loop. 

Result: Trigger LOOP

All CDJ / XDJ players function the same way.

@jess 

No, aun  siguen algunos fallos que no soy capaz de explicar , lo intentaré mejor en los próximos días.

En este vídeo, lo explique, pero parece que no lo expliqué  tan claro como quería.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ00wIYTR7c&feature=youtu.be

Pronto hare un video nuevo, demostrando los fallos con loops, con el sync boton y quantize 1 beat, 1/2 beat, etc...

How can I turn off Quantize Beat Value (Deck) on the XDJ-XZ?  1/8, 1/4, 1/2 and 1 beat are the choices, but I want no quantization whatsoever.  Is this possible?