BPM Issue

New to Rekordbox and though this might be a simple answer, I cant seem to find it.

I have a a song playing on the right channel that's 69.38 BPM and any song I place on the left channel takes on that same BPM, even if I have Beat Sync turned off on both channels. Isn't that the point of sync? To put it on beat and also when you turn it off, to not place it on beat? If so, what exactly am I doing wrong here?

Seeker February 28, 2019 01:15 Answered

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So here's what likely happened...

A track was loaded on deck 2 at 69.38BPM, then you loaded another track on deck 1 - it doesn't matter what the original BPM was, but you had SYNC enabled, and the BPM was then pitched down to match at 69.38. You then disabled SYNC, but because the deck doesn't simply "snap back" to zero % pitch when you disable sync, the virtual pitch location could be anywhere -- and won't change until you "pick up" the position of that pitch with the hardware fader. A quick and easy way to do that is to simply run the pitch fader all the way to the bottom and top of the slide, then return it to the middle (zero) position.

This won't happen if you don't have SYNC enabled when loading tracks in future.

Pulse February 28, 2019 18:14

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Got it. Thank you.

Is there a "reset" button internally? My controller is within a hard case and while I'm in the process of organizing my music, I don't want to have to open it just to reset a track.

Seeker February 28, 2019 21:03 0 votes

Also, any reason as to why Pioneer decided not to allow it to "snap back?" What benefit is there in -not- going back to its original BPM once you deselect SYNC?

Seeker February 28, 2019 21:06 0 votes

It's called a "hardware pickup" where the hardware has to match the last position of the software in order to avoid issues where you accidentally bump the hardware and the software pitch value immediately jumps to the hardware position.

If you don't want this to occur, simply disable SYNC and any songs loaded to either deck will remain at the pitch set by the hardware pitch fader.

Pulse February 28, 2019 21:11 0 votes

Thanks for the explanation on the "hardware pickup."

As for the pitch. What I was asking is if there's a way to reset the pitch without using the hardware, since i didn't want to have to unpack and plug my controller every time I wanted to reset a track. Sorry if that wasn't clear. Either way, I think I found a way. I just typed the original BPM into the jog wheel in Rekordbox. Can you just please confirm that 1) this won't cause any issues if playing out live (throwing the balance off in some way or causing other issues I'm not thinking of?) and 2) Is this the best way to achieve what I was asking without using the hardware at all?

Seeker February 28, 2019 21:34 0 votes

Again, I forget to mention that even when SYNC is disabled, when I unload the track and add the same track back again, it still has the other deck's BPM for some reason. Is this a bug or just something that happens until you reset it the way I did or by using the controller?

Seeker February 28, 2019 21:51 0 votes

If you had previously had sync enabled, or the hardware pitch fader was in that position, then that's where the pitch will be. If you never had SYNC enabled, and the pitch fader is at 0%, rekordbox will always load the tracks at their default 0% pitch.

If you're not using the hardware at all, and don't have the SYNC enabled, it won't change the pitch for any track by itself.

You can always enable a keyboard shortcut to reset the pitch (required for each deck):

Pulse March 01, 2019 19:04 0 votes

Thanks. That'll do. It works. But it would be nice not to have to reset it for a track that doesn't have SYNC enabled.

So let me confirm with you. Is this a bug in the program? Because I don't have SYNC enabled and yet it still does, in fact, change the pitch for the track. Does Rekordbox have a memory of some sort, because that has to be the issue. If I've loaded a track in the past and had SYNC enabled at that specific point in time, but then REMOVED the track, disabled SYNC and then added that track BACK into the deck, it won't read the original pitch, but rather the SYNC'ed pitch (even though, again, SYNC is disabled).

Seeker March 01, 2019 22:51 0 votes

By the way, just to be clear. When I say, "Because I don't have SYNC enabled and yet it still does, in fact, change the pitch for the track." I don't mean for a NEW song, but as mentioned above, for a song that I had accidentally added while the SYNC was enabled. If the SYNC is off and I add that same track again? It STILL syncs the tracks even though the SYNC is off. However, if the SYNC is off and I add a DIFFERENT song, then it'll retain that songs original BPM, which is why I assume that RB has some kind of memory associated with each track.

To sum: Why exactly does it SYNC the track I had previously added even though the SYNC option is not on? Is this a bug? If not, is there any way to correct this issue?

Seeker March 02, 2019 02:14 0 votes

You'll have to show a video of this happening so I can explain it to our engineers.

Pulse March 02, 2019 18:33 0 votes

Here you go:

https://vimeo.com/321001115

Seeker March 03, 2019 01:19 0 votes