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Using DDJ 800 as External Mixer with Ableton

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I have an issue about routing ddj 800 as external mixer with ableton. previously i have djm 850 and i can route them with ableton as external mixer, so i don't need to map anyting. bcz the reason is.. i want to stick with djm feature like all eq knob, fx, fader.. anything.. and i don't really like to make fx rack in ableton from scratch.

and today, i have my first dj controller. i have ddj 800. they said.. ddj 800 have standalone mixer, so we can use it with external source. when i route to ableton like previously did with my djm 850. i got the another problem here.. the mixer from ddj won't work, just the master gain only. the eq didn't work, faders didn't work.

how to fix this?

husein bandi

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Well, for starters, the audio mapping is not the same (they are different devices), and the MIDI mapping would be different as well.

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audio mapping? i don't even know that..

 
what i'm trying to say is.. why when i use djm 850.. i can use them as external mixer without no use ableton mapping at all. but won't work to ddj 800. the ddj 800 is standalone mixer, right? it supposed to be working as djm 850 does. 
 
i'm using same method on both device anyway... but different result..
 
my question is. how to use ddj 800 with ableton without any midi mapping..?
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The DDJ-800 has a 6-out audio interface; that's 3 pairs (1/2 -> Master, 3/4 -> Headphones, 5/6 -> Booth). If you wanted to use the DDJ-800 with Ableton, you would not be sending individual channels of the software to individual channels on the DDJ; it would be the channels in the software going to the master channel in the software, then output to the master (1/2) out on the DDJ. You could send the headphone cueing previews within Ableton to 3/4.

If you want, you could then MIDI map the channel faders (you have 2 hardware, but switchable to 4 total) and other hardware controls to the software.

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" If you want, you could then MIDI map the channel faders (you have 2 hardware, but switchable to 4 total) and other hardware controls to the software. "

why i need to midi map the faders? if that so.. this ddj 800 mixer different with the djm 850? because when i plug the djm 850 and switch the setting utility output to the usb. i don't need to map anything. that's why i confuse and came here..

the channel faders  & 3 band eq work without mapping. all the filter and fx works as well.

the biggest problem and also the question for you is. do i need to map the 3 band eq on the ddj 800 in working with ableton?? bcz the last time i tried, the eq didn't work. faders, fx, gain knob as well.

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"why i need to midi map the faders?"

Because of the outputs; the DDJ-800 does not route the audio to the channels; it sends it to the master, headphones, and booth outputs. If you want to use the channel EQs and faders, you need to map those controls from the DDJ.

The reason this is different on the DJM-850 is that it has the capacity to send individual tracks from within Ableton to individual channels on the mixer, meaning the audio is handled, EQd, and mixed on the mixer itself.

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