DJM 900 driver incompatible with OS X Lion

@ Lucas Grazziotin > What do you mean that you wish you were told a week earlier? This thread before that and has been available online the entire time... If you mean you wish you were specifically notified about the issue, I'm not sure how Pioneer can notify any of us since they do not have all of us users e-mails and information. The only way to be notified about this is for you to do your research before buying products. I'm not trying to be rude here, but this thread was available long before a week ago.

@ Mattia > I'm sorry to hear about the way you're feeling about your DJM-900 mate. I hope the fix comes soon so you don't feel you must part with your 900 because it's an incredible mixer and I love mine!! I believe the reason the update is taking longer is because the update to record properly with Snow Leopard OS X 10.6.8 is also a major issue in Lion along with others. Therefore the future release should hopefully address the OS X 10.6.8 recording issue as well as the Lion problems.

@ Slipcase > Are you using the 900 with Traktor and assigning functions? If not, how do you have your 900 set up?

Pulse is right guys, I'm pretty sure the engineers are working hard to get this solved for everyone, and Pioneer is not the only company to still be completing compatible updates at this time, and it shouldn't come to a surprise to anyone if you're familiar with using many types of music software and switching to a new OS version. My guess is that most of the users here and people having troubles might be fairly new to the scene of having to run software to make it compatible with your hardware. (ie. Am I wrong to think most of these Mac users have only ever used Snow Leopard as their Mac OS?... Just a guess) Aside from that, for those who are new to switching Operating Systems and using audio software, it is extremely essential to research that the updates are compatible with everything you use; or as much as you can confirm, before you complete the update. I had this issue way back when I upgraded from Tiger to Leopard and I learned my lesson from that. No one had an update for my stuff for a couple months and it really sucked! As I'm sure you guys feel you're in the same position right now. 

Anyways, I hope this helps with doing a bit of research before doing major updates in the future, and I wish you guys luck that the release is soon.

Foster

@ Pulse - Yes it is less functional, the only computer i have to use has Lion so it does NOT work all good for me!!!

@ Foster I searched a lot before finding this. 

It is a shame for pioneer to be so slow to solve this problem!!!!!!!!!!!!

@ Lucas Grazziotin > Actually Pulse is technically correct. The mixer itself is not less functional, it is the digital, USB and control features that are effected. The DJM-900 still works perfectly as a mixer, which is technically it's first purpose. I guess I'm lucky not to need the control and USB features right now. On another note: How do you have your 900 set-up and what are you using it with?

No offense, but did you search the Pioneer forums first for the problem or just a web search with Google or something? And did you search for compatibility issues before you purchased your DJM-900, or was it after you bought it and noticed the problem that you looked?

Just to clarify for others, the first place to check compatibility issues should always be the software/hardware companies websites and forums, then branch out to other main info sources and forums from there if you have no luck.

Foster

I swear I will never bump a thread ever again... lol sorry guys :)

I bought this mixer to use with my computer and traktor, IT DOES NOT WORK.

As you are not going to help me, I've got better things to do than talking to you...

@ Didier > Haha nice.

@ Lucas Grazziotin > It's not that I'm not going to help you... It's that I honestly can't help you at this time if you're wanting to use it with Traktor to control the software. But there may be a better route at this time if you're willing to give it a try? All I'll need to know is what gear and equipment you have running, and how it's set up?

I have some time right now and would be happy to try to help you out if you're willing to give it a try and if my idea can work with your current set-up. Just let me know mate?

Thanks,

Foster

@ Foster i got the dim-900 and a pair of cdj-2000.

My macbook air runs on Lion, so it won't work as it should, because the driver does not work with Lion.

Thnaks

@ Lucas Grazziotin > Thanks mate, I think this should work for you, and you may actually prefer this way once you get things going.

And you would like to use Traktor with everything correct? Is it Traktor 2 just to be sure? Because the previous version is not supported I'm pretty sure.

Just quickly I'll mention I personally prefer Rekordbox over Traktor, and if you really wanted to give it a try, you can test it out and ask me for any help if you need it while setting it up. But it's no problem if you still want to run Traktor.

Now on to the re-route for you:

• Connect your CDJ-2000's to your MacBook Air via USB, or USB hub.

• Ensure you have set up an aggregate device for both CDJ's to work simultaneously. (You can use the CDJ Aggregator software found on these forums)

• Connect your RCA or Digital cables from the backs of your CDJ-2000's, into your preferred channels on your DJM-900

• Do not connect your DJM-900 via USB to your MacBook Air or the USB hub.

• Start Traktor 2 on your MacBook Air and make sure you set up the HID functionality for your 2 CDJ-2000's

• Also make sure you set Traktor to use your 2 CDJ-2000's and the External Mixing mode

• You can also program other buttons on your CDJ-2000's to control other functions and features within Traktor if you need a couple others, but for the most part the CDJ-2000's should cover all the necessary functions by using the CDJ-2000 preset file

• From here you can mix with your CDJ-2000's controlling Traktor and use your DJM-900 as an external mixer

In my opinion it's better to use the DJM-900 as an external mixer because it gives you more functionality and the sound quality is superior on the DJM-900 than with Traktor's built in mixer. Also, the effects on the DJM-900 are also better than the ones built in with Traktor. By doing this, you're actually using the $2,399 retail value mixer for it's precision audio quality and excellent built in high quality effects. Rather than using it to control a $229 retail value piece of software that doesn't match the DJM-900's quality for effects. Honestly, you're getting more of your money worth when using the DJM-900 as an external mixer and using it's built in functions.

Unfortunately this won't work for everyone as they would still like to (or may have to) continue controlling Traktor with their DJM-900. But in my honest opinion, if you do not completely require being able to control Traktor with your DJM-900, then this is a better route. Plus the DJM-900 has a better EQ, not to mention an Isolator which I love, and many channel fader and cross fader options to switch things up and try to find a more comfortable way for you to mix.

If you do require controlling Traktor with your DJM-900, then I'm sorry but this won't work. But if anyone wants to give this method a try, I would definitely say it's worth a shot just to see.

Let me know if I explained everything well enough, it's kinda been while since I opened Traktor. And feel free to ask me any questions you have about this as well.

Let me know how it goes and thanks for giving me the chance to help mate. :)

Foster

Foster, I've been doing that, but Traktor doesn't have Advanced HID mode yet.  So it's basically lagged to trash on the CDJs.

@ Slipcase > What computer are you running it with? Processor speed? How much RAM?

I've noticed slight lag when I used Traktor in the past, but I guess I'm lucky to have nothing major. My advice for you might be to use Rekordbox, but I know a lot of people have different issues with that as well and aren't too fond of it either. lol I personally prefer Rekordbox over anything else.

I know the Advanced HID is a massive problem over on the NI forums, so hopefully their working on that. lol

I have a 2010 macbook pro, 2.35 GHz, 8 gigs of ram.

I'm getting more into rekordbox now though.  I really like it because I don't need to have my laptop.

@ Slipcase > And that thing lags with Traktor and CDJ-2000's?? Wow, there must be a big problem with that for NI then!! lol

Yeah, Rekordbox is pretty handy in a lot of ways. I also enjoy using it as a regular media player because there are a lot more functions and key controls available. The colors feature is handy for me, as well as pre-setting cues and memory spots for later, and with the CDJ-2000's it's great you can search by so many different areas such as Color, Key, BPM... those are handy for me at least. And yes most importantly, you can DJ without your laptop and your tracks show up instantly with the waveform and everything! That's probably the main reason why I prefer it over any other software on the market!

I've been using Rekordbox ever since I got my CDJ-900's and can't be bothered with anything else. :)

Please start a new thread if you are going to continue talking about issues unrelated to the DJM 900 Nexus timecode issue with Lion OS. 

Any news yet? Firmware pages need to be updated to show timecode does not work with lion. 

@Keith > It clearly says on the driver download page:

| Operating Systems
| Mac OS : MacOS X 10.3.9, 10.4, 10.5, 10.6
|

We are still waiting for a Lion-compatible driver.  When it is released, it will be available on the download page as well as announced here, Twitter and Facebook.

View the adress. I am unable to find it posted and it needs to be. I have been misled. I checked this page before I bought the mixer and now realizing the competence of pioneer is much lower than I expected, and I am experiencing profit loss have to buy other equipment in the mean time to compensate. I am becoming very disappointed. 

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/DJ/Mixers/DJM-900nexus

@Keith > As noted above, the engineers are still working on the 10.7 drivers for the DJM-900nexus and will be announced on availability.  It took M-Audio months to release 10.6 drivers for all of their hardware but Pioneer is working to get all of their drivers up-to-speed as quickly as they can.  It's an expensive and time consuming process when the operating systems change enough that new drivers are required.

I just wanted to weigh in on this topic because I have been struggling for the last week not knowing why my setup does not work.

Firstly I think pioneer should at the very least post on their page for the 900 that it is not currently compatible with Mac OsX 10.7

Secondly I know I am bias, but I think the customers have every right to be irritated. If the DJM 900 didn't cost $1800+/- then I wouldn't be so bugged but it does and I feel like there should $1800+/- interest in my issues.

Third, yes I do have CDJ2000's and no I don't like to use those with Traktor because they have an obvious lag when compared to the timecode cds. I would much rather have my hardware work as advertised.

I do not have any other computers and this computer came with 10.7, so i'm kinda stuck right now. I would feel a lot better about my issue if I had some idea when a fix would be coming, vaguely saying "the engineers are still working on the 10.7 driver" and then pointing out how a company that I didn't buy from can't get their drivers out either only makes me think there is a problem with business not supporting the customer.

P.S you know what else is expensive and time consuming? The DJM 900 is expensive, and going to work to pay it off is time consuming. You're not going to make me feel bad that Pioneer has to fix something. If you don't want to fix it, fine give me a full refund and I'll give you your hardware back.

@Pulse> I have read a lot on these forms and you always seem so nice and helpful, it was kinda a surprise to read this posting and you're going off on people for bumping and being frustrated that their purchased equipment doesn't work. Why not remember the times you had to sit on the phone and talk to technical support, or search the internet for one tiny post that would mention something about your problem so you know you aren't going crazy.

@Foster > Hey man it's cool that you like rekordbox and that you think pioneer makes the best mixer around, but that might not be what everyone wants to do, and we live in a world that you have that choice. If a product is advertised as doing something and it can't that's a problem. Also, just to give my personal thoughts, i think rekordbox works like first gen itunes, and has just about as many features, it's buggy, and it doesn't do symmetric processing; I'll stick with traktor.

4 months later, Pioneer is still avoiding the issue.

No they're not, and your profanity was not appreciated.

As noted above, they are working with Apple to resolve the issues and expect the drivers to be released in November,

This is the end of the thread.