DJM-850? Yep, it's here!

LOL

@Dj trend , I like what you saying when it comes to buying new equipment ,I will look at the mixers and check out it's versatility when being used in different situations ,like connectabilty, whether it can be used as a software/ midi controller,filters, isolators etc the effects do come into it but not as much as a mixers usefulness in different situations with an overall look on sound quality and perfomance for future use. I bought the 2000 after using the 700 which was loaded with quality effects but channel to channel this was for me a blinding mixer alongside cdj 1000 and vinyl decks but it had many limitations for future use and no digital inputs so when i upgraded i went all in for the future. I really feel for those bought the legendary DJM 800 as many features were lost on it's later said natural upgrade the DJM 900 ,I miss some of the features on the 700 but thought long and hard about whether i should upgrade to 900 or the 2000 but when making the decision excepted that the new kit would not be the same that to me is progression in marketing which Pioneer are very clever with. But have got to say i've asked myself did i buy the right mixer a few times now and after reading so many forums it appears that both would be   .@BriChi With my earlier thread i was just trying to say if you are going to upgrade to a new mixer "850 or 900 " it won't be the same as the mighty 800 as they are completely new and different breeds of mixers and that is progression so find the new ways to champion your choice if you do upgrade .My personal view on the 850 would be, cool mixer but as with the 700 limited future use as no digital inputs  etc , natural upgrade it would have to be 900 or 2000 and don't sell the 800 .

@D Mark Mills, well put! I just hate having to go inside Best Buy and seeing PIONEER equipment. When I first started to buy the gear I was also in it for convienance and quality and vision. I do have the DJM-800 and 2 cdj-2000 and i'll stop there because their should be more focus on designing a mixer without a crossfader because I have not met a electronica Dj that uses it, but thust just me and I know there's a lot of debate with this suggestion. Or perhaps a mixer that all imformation on the plate lights up so I don't have to keep using a damn light. They can get it on the CDJ's so why not the mixers?? and definately have phono still available on ch.1,2, and 3 because it's still important to not forget that some of us still use vinyl. That's why I still keep my DJM-600 just so I can enjoy the records or serato.

yes, well put Mills! I understand what you are saying

@Pulse and @Gavin hey just seeing if you guys are working on a vid to show what pretty much Dj Antonin did but of course in english show us the effects in realtime and just your thoughts on ect.. 

@Nvasion > I offered to do a uStream session with the unit and had no takers...

@Gavin, its cool we got other people doing vids here is another video with a little more detail on the depth knob and how it works a little differently with certain effects such as the reverb and echo up once the depth knob passes the 12'oclock.  I wonder though if all effects have different uses such as regular echo and trans past the 12 o clock on the depth knob.  Here is the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCgoSZLi_Fw

Well, I've made my mind up. Going to order the DJM-850.

Alittle help please. I've read all of the above and viewed the videos., but I can't justify the extra £300 for 2 extra colour effects, digital outputs and Pro Link?

I think the Echo up and Beat colour effects, make up for this loss?

Am I making the right decision, or can the owners of the Nexus sway me?

I use cdj2000s, Technics 1210s mk3s, Traktor Pro 2 and HDJ2000s.

Thanks, Bricey.

You have CDJ-2000s, get the DJM-900.  Benefit from Quantized Effects and Pro Link at least.  The extra money on the mixer will bring more value from your existing gear.

@Bricey > As @Mark90 mentioned, the 900 would provide you with Quantized Beat Effects using the LINK with the CDJ-2000's. Your 1210's would not be Quantized however. Also, you would have a "Cue LINK" on the DJM-900 if you connect your computer running Rekordbox to the setup, and I would recommend using the digital inputs with your 2000's. Lastly, the 900 has the X-Pad which is a great tool for being creative with your Beat Effects.

I just think that if you're looking to save a mere £300 therefore locking yourself out of several quality features in the process, you might as well just sell your 2000s and get CDJ-850s instead.

I think there's an element of desire involved just because the DJM-850 is the most recent thing off Pioneer's production line.

@mark90 & @Foster
Massive thank you for your comments.
You have highlighted some important issues I was not aware of!
I think the video of the 850 with the side chained noise just sucked me in!! ;)
I think I will go for the 900, I did want this originally, but thought the 850 'was' better value, nothing to do with how recent it was.
If you could confirm a few more points for me please, then I'm sold!! ;)
The transform effect on 900:
Does the gate length change from 12 o'clock onwards on depth dial, onwards like on the 850? As it makes scratching better like the character did on my old !
The cue link? Why, when you can cue on channel? I use Rekordbox, but how does 900 incorporate?
Thanks in advance.
Bricey

Like ghe character did on my old efx1000 that should say sorry! ;)

@Bricey, RekordBox incorporates with the 900 in terms of the Quantized effects.  I'm going to assume you have Pro Link sorted on your 2000s - you have them both connected to a network switch, along with your computer, allowing you to play tracks directly from RekordBox.  If you connect the 900 to the network switch, it receives the RekordBox beatgrid information from the CDJs so the effects become Quantized and always stay in time.

With Cue Link (again you need the 900 connected to the network switch along with your RekordBox computer), if you are using RekordBox to play your tracks, you can listen to a track on the Cue Link section directly through your headphones.  Why is this useful?  For example you have a track loaded and cued into each CDJ - you can preview other tracks through Cue Link without messing around with your already cued tracks on your CDJs.

The link on the 900 also means you can take advantage of the 2000's On-Air Display, and have the jog wheel LEDs turn red when their channel is 'live'.

And yes - digital inputs!  Go digital!

do you guy's think the 850 price is  right. for what you get?

Hey Bren [EDIT] I suggest you shop around and you could probably save your self a couple hundred.  I don't know if I can give you sites on here as I think it is prohibited but do your research and also call dj online stores and or email them as well.  Choose online websites that are well known so you won't get the run around.  To actually answer your question I love pioneer as many on here do because pioneer products are built to last but in saying this they are a bit over priced but you can get a lot of deals if you do your research.  [EDIT]

@Nvasion > Forum ToS - No discussing price.

@Bren Mac > The best thing we can tell you to do, as applies in all situations where you are buying an expensive item, is to shop around. Its important to consider not just the business that gave you the best price but the one that provided the best support and who you think you wouldn't have any problems with, should there be any issues with your order.

What fits one DJs needs may not fit another so consider does the unit fit YOUR needs and deliver value for YOU. Or would you be better off buying a cheaper unit / second hand / refurb unit.

Hey Gavin didn't know thanks for the edit. 

Is this Mixer compatible with Firmware updates?

@Markoerregger as in will there be future FW updates like with other mixers?  I assume as any improvement is made and pushed with FW it will make it to the mixer.  Watch the Forums for all new announcements...

Sorry for miss understanding,my question is how can upgrade the Firmware from this Mixer?

On the Djm 900/2000 gets the Firmware Update over LAN Cabel but the Djm 850 dont have this

Sorry for bad English greets from Austria

No problem, I would say the USB port would be used..

Could someone tell me the part number for the Service Manual for this please, we have a faulty one.

http://parts.pioneerelectronics.com/model.asp?modelNum=DJM%2D850%2DK

thanks BriChi but Pioneer UK say it is not available :-(

Thinking about picking up the DJM-850-K to match my CDJ-850-K's but have a couple of questions. I am a Scratch Live user, and I only 2 decks, would I be able to midi map the color effect knob and the cue button to Scratch Live's effects if wanted? Also is the crossfader mappable, I'm a hamster style DJ and also do video DJing so being able to do this is very important to me! Thanks for your time!

@Matt > You most certainly could - you only map what you want and the rest simply controls audio.

@kev inn > The service manual is not available to the public.

my only wish for 900 would be to have two pro link ports to save me having to carry on my flight case an ethernet switch - very annoying!

Not every dj is beedroom or studio based... being a working road dj the least amount of clutter in the box the better - and less bits to fault find when something does go wrong!

lots of djs that use my kit all ask why the quantize effect doesnt work... so my reply is "theres only one pro dj link on the back of this mixer.. and i have two cdj2000s... ask pio why they left it off?!"

I appreciate these things are made to a cost but seriously does one eithernet port and a few electronic geeky bits really push the cost up that much on something thats already premium price...

Not enough room for more ports.