DJM-2000 Nexus!

I think its the biggest fail ever,soyy but we wish us not more mixers,we need Firmwares!!!!!!!!!!

new Firmware for Djm 2000 nexus comes October 2020? :D

Sorry

@Zeus > No, I don't believe it's possible.

@walter > What's disappointing? I knew about the new mixer and provided feedback in development as well as pushing for the mk1 update. What's disappointing about that? The engineers that work on the headphones aren't the same engineers that work on the mixer - so I don't follow the logic in this argument.

@everyone > please remember to play nice and be respectful of each others comments here.

@Marsano > DJing with partners certainly isn't for everyone but I have to say, I saw Monsta on the Pioneer booth at BPM: two guys DJd with a live vocalist and they were fantastic. Really creative and entertaining.

@markoerregger > Clearly you haven't read any of the details surrounding this announcement or any of the threads. A firmware update will be available towards the end of this month.

@Gavin> I understand that but the sooner you guys (Pioneer) understand that that's your problem and that we view you as one.  You are Pioneer.  I personally dont care if you have 1 or 10 engineers.  The fact of the matter was that if you knew from a year ago that the NXS was coming and the firmware comes out simply because it was designed for the NXS and touched up (in other words features subtracted from it for the 2000) makes me feel like you guys think we are stupid or something. 

I personally will not invest on Pioneer any longer based on the recent events that have taken place over the last 12 months. 

I think Mark said it best....We want firmwares that improve your products as there is much room for improvements not new mixers with different color LED and knobs.  Whats with the new color obsession you guys have.

Having said all that, no thank you to Pioneer for the FW to come, all I have to say is its about time!  We shall see if what happens as the last time your QA team approved a firmware for release, it was simply a disaster Gavin. I know it and you know it.

Sorry but I have no more faith in this company.  Just being honest with you and not bitter.

Cheers friend!

You've lost faith in a company because they aren't updating a 2 year old product that isn't broken. Makes perfect sense.

@walter > the hardware between the two mixers is different. The firmware wasn't just developed for the Nexus and it wasn't just a happy coincidence it works in the MK1. It had to be specifically tailored for the hardware. Admittedly, an update should have come sooner alas here we are with an update that aims to fix bugs and pack in new features.

well let's see, but still I have to say that it's bad politics from pioneer to make customers (Who earn money with your products, as long as they are popular) wait that long for fixes, normally in urgent cases it has to be much much faster than it is now.

1 year to lower the volumes of the fx is way too long for such a simple fix.

I also understand that it is possible to introduce new bugs with a new firmware which I guess we all understand to a certain point, but the way and time they are handled is not suitable for a High End Company as pioneer claims to be.

There was a new bug introduced to the CDJ-2000MK1 how long do we need to wait to get it sorted?, 6months? 12months? No way to go back to the older firmware or anything. This is not acceptable

@William Plander there are certainly bugs on the mixer which can cause really a lot of problems, You probably should check your firmware maybe your still on V1, otherwise in a certain amount you are correct, but if you have the hardware also for rental purposes and some guys want to check the features of the noise and set the noise level on 12' clock (where the normal level is acclaimed to be) it just blasts away everything and everybody since the levels are so high. This can lead to serious damage on people when the volume of the speakers is set to a peak at 120db and you push something like that out of it then its good bye everybody. So in my opinion its a well demanded bug fix.

EpikureeR

I think people are overlooking the finer details here.  Sure this is a very fast turnaround for a mixer refresh - I envisioned this happening in the middle of next year.

However this only appears to be a 'minor' step up when compared to other hardware releases.  Essentially the new stuff is the Sync Master (which a large number of people would slate anyway), the Beat Slicer (again a large number of people don't even use the touchscreen) and the biggest thing, the sound card.

We have been promised a v3 update for the mk1, this is good news.  I had it in my mind that v3 would appear around the CDJnexus launch, but this now shows why that didn't happen.  I always maintained in private that DJM fixes would wait for a big v3 firmware release.

The moaners should hold off and see what the new updates have to offer.

And as for complaining about Pioneer reps holding back information, this is just ridiculous.  Of course Pioneer reps will know about things in advance.  It makes no sense in any way to annouce information like that.

Yey - I can now take my gran with me to record her singing!

I pulled this info from a u.k company that is selling the mixer for a very cheap £1989. Hehe

NEW!   Beat Slice

NEW! Sync Master - Can anyone please explain this one to me?

Quantized Beat Effects

Live sampler - My grans over the moon with this one!

Superior peak limiter eliminates distortion even at club   volumes

NEW high performance channel faders

IMPROVED sound quality   for a powerful club sound - Any specs on this?

Large full-colour multi-touch display with   three innovative performance modes

Frequency Mix mode

Enhanced Side Chain Remix mode

MIDI mode

INST FX for intuitive   control and studio quality sound

Professional   design and elegant finish

The sampler's been on the 2000 since the original release...

I find it quite odd that the Beat Slicer "isn't available" in firmware 3.0, considering there doesn't appear to be much of a hardware change outside the T-Base jacks and the new DACs. You guys didn't even bother to give the Slicer it's own button...

@ gavin So which is true as regards to the addition of beatslicer?

(I tend to go with you on not a djm 2000 firmware upgrade) but pioneer say this which is almost the opposite...)

Q3 Tell me about the firmware update (Ver. 3.0) for the DJM-2000.A3

The same firmware can be used for the DJM-2000 and DJM-2000nexus. By updating your DJM-2000 to firmware version 3.0, the same functions as the DJM-2000nexus can be used on your_ DJM-2000_

Hopefully djm2000 owners are pleasantly surprised to get a few decent new features on their firmware release.. Lets see..

But if they dont, id have to say i dont feel quite as screwed by my former djm900 debacles..

This thing takes the cake.. I dont see one new button physically (no xpad like every other recent pio release).. Its almost as if they slapped a sound card into existing units, changed a few knob colors and developed new firmware.. Bizarre..

The slicer is kinda cool but theres not much new here that i wouldnt think could be put into new firmware for mk1..

Hope pio does right by u guys here

'You've lost faith in a company because they aren't updating a 2 year old product that isn't broken. Makes perfect sense.'

Thats a bold statement to make... Have you checked which firmware version you are on? If v2 surely your taking the pee...

the firmware 1.xx was fine just quantised effect it need imo. , V2 firmware made noise unusable normally, if i need to use it i put the channel fader around half way up but the levels are still crazy - Any new dj to the mixer could easily get a shock!

I  agree with this tho and had noticed it myself - 'You guys didn't even bother to give the Slicer it's own button...'

It seems its part of the sidechaining button (3rd button down) - Is it a tab in there gavin?

Of course Im on version 2, and I use the Noise effect all the time. What I don't do is ram the knob straight to the max and expect it to be perfectly fine, the same way I don't max out any knob on any mixer.

@william plander the knob is on mid already way too high, i don't know why you don't get it 

@ William it was perfectly fine 'rammed to max' (as you put it) on the initial firmware. Same way as you can use the channel faders all the way to the top without hassle. Saying something shouldn't be used past half way is bizarre...

you know what we be a really cool feature for the new DJM2000 Nexus and the CDJ2000Nexus combo, let you activate/control the ABC hot starts right from the DJM2000 screen so your hands dont have to wonder too far to do quick mixes.

I dont own the DJM2000, nor would I buy one because it's overkill for what I do, but I was just thinking for the owners, that would be a cool feature in my opinion

At default level, it doesn't even come close to being too loud. It only sounds irritating because the filter lifts all the way off.

Im sure you guys are waiting for the fix for the gain and volume knobs on every single mixer, ever.

This is expensive professional equipment we are talking about. It should be fit for purpose, not half usable. Firmware 1 was pretty much fine effect volume wise, for me anyway. All it needed was quantised!

I hope the limiter comes with long release and heavy gain reduction so the redlining s**tmongers will learn to appreciate headroom :)

We don't know what internal changes have gone on inside the mixer so we can't just 'decide' that Beat Slice could be achieved by the mk1.

Also, look at the product photos.  The Beat Slice clearly has a nexus style waveform, that probably comes straight from RekordBox and as such, is a 'nexus' feature that we won't be seeing on older units.  Pioneer have to advance their products and their new products need USPs.  The nexus labelling and associated feature set does just that.

What organisation on Earth would market a new product and say "yeah, get this new kit for £x,xxx or get this software update for free..."?  Business just doesn't work like that I'm afraid.

I think this mixer could really have done with a few cosmetic changes:

An extra 8/1 beat effect button.

Pots for the channel input selectors.

BPM Flange effect.

Guys, my apologies - I received further clarification and, as per the statement on the website, all the features will also be available on the MK1. I'm sorry for the confusion, entirely my fault.

wow!

But only available when using cdj2k Nexus?

Wow, ok, thanks Pioneer!

I find this hard to believe.

So what exactly is the difference between the two mixers?

A wild guess is that the nexus has a proper soundcard that supports 96khz with equal amount of inputs and outputs, maybe even traktor certified.

That was what I suspected, but strange it doesn't seem overly mentioned