[CLOSED] DDJ T1 Controler Problems

Any help...anyone!

Is there anyone that can help me on this please?

@Rudi > See below...

1) The delay is inherent as the audio from the mic MUST pass in through the software and back out in order to be output from the master signal.  The best thing you can do to reduce the delay is to tweak the latency settings to be as low as possible before you hit any sound problems (hiccups or crackling).

2) What version of Traktor are you running?

3) It should, as should the EQs.

Hallo Pulse,

Thanks for the reply, it's much appreciated!

At least now, I know what the problem is and were to start with the solution in terms of the mic.

About the version of Traktor, that would be Traktor pro 2.

Thats not a version number of Traktor Rudi we Recomend to use Version "2.1.2" by now and there is a Fix for the isue when moving the Pitch Fader and the jogwheel at the same time called "Unlocked Software Pitchfader". This will be fix your secound Problem.

The First problem is a little bit Tricky, because a reason could be a "Long way to the PA" doue long Linecables throu your PA, if a Courd is connectet throu an Speakermanagement, that way could be Longer.

Keep in mind that all your Cabels are not longer the 20m. (about 60feet)

Keep all of them as short as Posible.

An other part could be an low Latenz System, your Laptop has more to do as only load up Music. While you connect up your DDJ open the Pioneer ASIO utility and set the buffer to the "lowest posible settings" as same as you do on your Traktor -> Audio Settings for sure!

You can check your system for a low Latency by using this Small utility

http://www.thesycon.de/dpclat/dpclat.exe

if it´s under 500 µ/s - all works fine but if u had  drops like this

http://www.thesycon.de/dpclat/dpclat2.jpg

your at a high risk of drop outs, the same resoults with in long latenzes while you speak on your microphon.

Please read http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml and check how to fix that.

greets

Alright guys you need to step it up on the customer support end when people ask questions. I'm experiencing the same problem when using a wireless mic system on my T1 with Traktor. If you are having this issue it's mainly due to your PCs ability to process sound the faster the chip the better sound production i5 and i7 are excellent if you are using an AMD X2 chip you will have issues like me. Try turning down your latency setting it will improve the sound output from the mic to the PA but on the other hand if you had previously increased your latency time due to dropouts during mixing then you will start to get dropouts when mixing again (THAT SUCKS!) This I believe is a problem that both Pioneer and Traktor should fix with an update. The T1 was quite expensive and it should have zero issues coming from a company like Pioneer.

Pioneer DJ please take a corrective action to have this fixed customers and future customers will not settle for nothing less. I also strongly dislike this answer 1 to the OP.

@Crossmax > You may dislike the answer, but that's the correct answer to why it's happening.  Unfortunately the audio signal MUST go through the software and the in-to-computer / out-of-computer just compounds the latency.

I am using the DDJ-T1 (latest version) in combination with a new HP i5 Windows 7 Notebook for a few months now and have the same problems with the microphon delay (the latency is the lowest possible). It is a great product, I really love it. But from my point of view Pioneer can explain whatever they want: they have a regulatory problem because they claim in their operating instructions a Pentium 4 as minimal requirement to run the controller. Using such a computer customer can expect that generally everything works. The computers used in this blog are all much better and faster but still the system does not work as expected. We fly to the moon with tourists today, it should be possible to bypass the microphone signal to the power amp directly without passing the computer if this problem cannot be fixed with a software/firmware update. Not having a delay for the microphon (which indeed is very confusing when you speak into it) is really a very basic requirement.

First of all from my point of view the DDJ isnt your Problem at all.

i´m using my DDJ with an HP ProBook 4720s i5 m480 8g of RAM - 2 HDDs

The 1 is internal for the Win - Traktor Pro Database + recordings n stuff....

The 2nd on is on eSata for a Higher bandwith faster analysing and a much BIG Storage of 2 TB!!!

The importen things to know is how a mic "Analog" Device should work

Your signal way is so much corrupting due the way from the Mic - throu the software - back to the USB and finaly the ending from the DDJ output it self.

As u can see u send an analog signal to a Digital softwareframework to an analog output. (after that comes the way throu the PA self, where you add more delay at all)

To Find out whats realy comes out from your ddj you can pre hear your voice in your headphones... if they workd fine then you can be sure that the PA plus the Location with his arcustic significations brings your delay, if its not than you can go back Home and tweak your settings befor you run out for a gig.

Find out what kind of usles Windows services ore your OEM Software runs in the back. Disable the moste of all and get the lowest processes Running to fast up Windows. (´My HP is running with 47 processes on a mix session incl. bluethoot enabled.)

The next thing is to setup your Energy settings for the minimal Saving options and the Max of Performence not only Switching to the Profil self.

as an example windows can hold some CPU Cores to save energie thes resoults in a much higher lode of Traktors audioengine.

this list is soo endless and you have to try tweak your setup to the highes possible Stable Traktor setup.

Native Instruments has an "very important to Know" forum, use it !

http://www.native-instruments.com/forum/index.php

The reason the mic goes through the software is for those who wish to sample it, include it in their recordings, etc.

Thank you roBRoy for all your valuable information.

I do have Windows and Traktor on this notebook only. I do not use it for anything else, just for DJing.

I already tried to optimize the energy settings and to speed up Windows the maximum possible but I will check this again.

The thing is that I used a DJM-700 Mixer and 2 CDJ-800 so far. I have not changed the wireless microphone or the (active) loudspeakers, just the DDJ. That is why it is a little bit strange to me. But you are right: in the pre-out it sounds not so bad in my headphones speaking into the microphone. But still; there seems to be a slightly larger delay in the loudspeakers.

I am working as a wedding and party DJ. Since I have the DDJ people refuse to use the microphone because it confuses them.

Why not passing the signal through the software when it passes a fader only (what I actually do)? And if using the external pitch on the DDJ let pass the signal directly to the amp. Maybe just a crazy idea...

But to be serious: I am really wondering how it works in TV shows, where the signal of the microphones have to pass for sure a professional software today with all the present digital technology (?). They cannot have a delay especially because the audience might see it on the screen at their home TVs.

Furthermore I am wondering whether the new DDJ-SX with Serato will have the same limitations (...). If no, it is a software/hardware problem of the DDJ-T1.

Here you can see my equipment: http://www.djrolf.ch/equipment.html

How is it possible to get the signal to the MAC then out off the computer?

MIXER < ---- MASTER OUTPUT 1 <----- DDJ-T1 --> MAC ---> Traktor

@Paul > Are you asking a question or providing an answer?

Not being sarcastic but a question mark means a question.

That's how my setup chain goes, going to try another mic, thanks.