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XDJ RX Auto Gain or Normalize in next firmware?

Hi, I would like to know if is possible to have an auto gain or normalize function in the firmware update or maybe in next rekordbox...

It's very helpfull when you have to do dj set like in chill party or dinner when you have to mix very different kind of songs and when the volume is not so high to make a flow...

To be more uniformed easily...

Thanks!

paolo

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You don't want tracks to be normalized - it removes dynamic range originally intended to be there by the producer. Besides, if people complained about how long it takes to analyse a track for the waveform, could you imagine how PO'd they'd be about the processing time for analysis and normalization?

As for auto-gain, if you're simply playing tracks, why not use another application to do that? The purpose of rekordbox isn't to play your dinner music.

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Yes, I agree with you for normalization...

I don't simply play the track, I mix and is a a DJ set in every technical aspect but sometimes you don't have the right booth monitor with the right volume and maybe the autogain could help cause you are not safe moving the trim, to have a flow without surprise. So why don't have the possibility to have this feature?

thanks a lot for your answer

 

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@paolo > If you're mixing, in every technical sense, then you should be adjusting the gain for each track as you load it, previewing it to check the levels on the meter / headphones, then adjusting as necessary and then playing the track.

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It sounds like there's confusion over setting the overall track gain vs. ALC (automatic level control).  Most normalizing tools support both methods, however most folks who use the feature use track peak level normalizing, which sets the overall gain of the track (rather than ALC which results in dynamic compression).

I don't need this on the hardware, but I do process all my tracks so their peaks land at the same level without distortion (and the adjustment is tagged in one of the ReplayGain tags if I ever need to back it out).  There are a bunch of tools that enable to do this processing, depending on platform (my favorites being Audacity, dBPowerAMP, and mp3DirectCut).  Considering there are other tweaks needed on many tracks, this is just part of the workflow as tracks are loaded into the library...  

Even with this preprocessing, I'm still fiddling with the channel gains and EQ because the subjective results during a mix are highly flow related.  But it does help avoid having something come crashing through the speakers should I get careless or distracted.

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pope totaly agree.... so why don't add this feature to rekordbox?!?!?

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...because it's a (manual) feature of your mixer?

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If it were me, I'd say this falls into the 'do no harm' aspect of the Rekordbox tool...the only thing it modifies in a file are tags (and even that behavior is configurable).  Once you apply DSP to the audio portion of the file, certain aspects are irreversible.  It is pretty rare, but sometimes I need to revert to an original copy and start over with edits and mastering.  While it would be nice to have a 'one stop shop' for editing,  mastering, and library management, I doubt a single tool can do all of those tasks exceeding well without sacrificing something significant (and I wouldn't trust it, most likely;) 

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@pulse so why traktor, djay and others have this option?!? So why don't you remove auto sync.... Could be a manual feature also this one... :-)

@pope could be a digital solution directly on the hardware (tractor, day etc...)

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Personally would prefer it the way it is, something I do in mastering for my library, and let the equipment best represent what I tried to do in the studio.  I still need to do whatever production is necessary 'in the mix'...otherwise it'll sound like an ipod on shuffle (but with beatmatching! yay!)

YMMV...

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@pope something more it's always something that you can chose or not.... and it's always better somthing more that something less in technology for me...

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@paolo > Because those are performance software, this is management software! ;)

I've passed the suggestion to the rekordbox team for further discussion.

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@pulse ok... but xdj and others pioneer have a software inside the hardware.... for beat sync for browse for sctratch and everything (next time to don't load on active deck songs... on xdi), so why don't this software can't give also an auto gain option? 

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@dj kiki for me is always better more features that you can switch off or not use than nothing.... however I think that auto gain have to be in the software of the hardware cause is the perfromance software (like traktor ableton day etc...)

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dj kiki I know but maybe some people did this kinf of discussion about beat auto sync some years ago... we're going to the future... I'm sure that auto gain will be a standard with next hardware... Some years ago you can imagine touch screen? try to mix with djay and ipad and you discover how much the possibility to make effects and others sings directly with your fingers and not knob is fantastic and more creative... 

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If the auto-gain of current software is any indication, it simply doesn't work. Even with it enabled I've found inconsistencies in levelling between tracks.

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I have to agree with Pulse, Serato has had auto gain for years and it was pretty inconsistent. Not sure how well it would work. Some of my my tracks that I find low i run through "Smart Gain" for mac and it with auto detect a "safe" level to bring the db up to

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djay and ipad are for kids only cause the hardware are not pro... but the software is amazing...

howevere auto is the feature of tecnology, the thing that make the difference is always only one: the taste... 

I'ma a photographer and I love manual focus but I'm very happy that sometimes I can chose the auto focus...

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