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Pre listen Effect on XDJ-RX2 with " cue button of Ch1 or Ch2 "

I check all Beat effect and here's below what i found:

Roll, flanger, pitch and trans are working fine on both deck 1 & 2.

I mean if i select one of them i can hear the effect on my HD8DJ earphone

(cue button on) and by the external speaker.

If i want Reverb, Spiral, Echo and Delay it doesn't work on Ch1 & Ch2.

I mean i can't heard them when "Cue button on " of Ch1 or Ch2 channel, but the selected effect is correctly applied on the selected ch1 or 2 and can be heard by external speaker.

But if i select  " Cue Master " all effects can be heard on my earphone???

It's a big problem not to pre-listen all effect with earphone and to apply them when i want

A bug like on the  " XDJ RX2 BUG - No Quantize on echo effect "

Hope what i wrote is fully understandable.

Are other user noticed this bug?

If the problem can be sent to TK XDJ-RX2 team i should be fine to be corrected on a future firmware.

Also is it a bug really???

Thanks for your help.

Gerald

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This is normal -- it has to do with pre/post fader application of the effects.

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Well i can understand this if it was what you said is for all effect.

I mean that Roll, flanger, pitch and trans can be heard with my hd8 earphone  when Cue button of CH1 & CH2 on, i can pre-listen on earphone

Not the other effect Reverb, Spiral, Echo and Delay.

I don't really understand this...

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Hi,

You said " it has to do with pre/post fader application of the effects. "

Sorry i don't understand this.

So no possibility to pre-listen  in earphone (with Cue button active for Ch1 & Ch2) for Reverb, Spiral, Echo and Delay???

But why it's possible to do this for Roll, flanger, pitch and trans???

Sorry for those question, but i don't know how to apply well a effect if i don't pre-listen the effect on the desired channel.

Gerald

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also i have noticed that the effects dont even apply when i play using midi mode when using certain channels on mixer  for example when I try to use echo and set fx channel 2 nothing happen but if i switch to A i get effects????     If i cross fader to A and apply FX on channel B i get effects as well, seems reversed?   But still i get nothing applied when i use FX channel 1 or 2, Master works fine.  is tihs a setting in rekordbox that i need to change because i just checked using USB and everything works fine all channels applied

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@Gerald > Some effects, like echo, are applied POST-fader, meaning you wouldn't hear them in the channel cue. The flanger is applied PRE-fader, so it can be heard in the channel cue.

@Arthur > In MIDI mode, all the effects are operated internally on the software, not on the hardware directly, and they operate as a single chained FX unit, not individually selectable. Change the channel on the hardware to change the FX assignment.

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Hi ^^

Ok why not?

But i wonder why when i select " Cue Master " i can heard all effect in my hearphone?

Strange thing to integrate the effect like you said.

If a user want to applly correctly somme effect the effect should/must be heard pre/listen on a selected channel with Cue button on???

I didn't play on other XDJ-RX2 so don't know by myself if it's like mine.

Also as i didn't have before a XDJ-RX i didn't test effect with " Cue button on" on channel 1 & 2.

Strange behaviour really....

Gerald

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Why can you hear all of them when you cue the MASTER? Because that's what is being sent out the master! You can't hear all of the effects on the CHANNEL cue because it occurs PRE-CHANNEL-FADER, meaning BEFORE the fader, meaning BEFORE those specific effects are added to the audio signal.

ECHO is a POST-FADER effect, so when you cut the channel (or cross) fader in and out, the audio will be heard, and the echo will tail-out. This is why you can't hear it in the channel cue.

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The big question is, how can we pre-listen to the post-fader effects? We'd like to hear the effect before introducing it.

If we simply can't do so, I suggest quantizing the effects channel that way they are always in time when you introduce to master channel then learning by experience how each of the pre-fade effects gains levels affects.

Another way to do this is to mix in your effect ideas into a pre-listen master cue and hear how it sounds then gently shorten or lengthen the time as you bring the fade up. 

 

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Sorry - effects which are applied post-fader (such as the echo) are unable to be previewed on the channel cueing. There is no change that can be made in software to modify the cueing bus points.

Thanks for your feedback and understanding.

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