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XDJ-RX BPM Issues!!

I recently purchased an XDJ-RX and for some reason the bpm fluctuates, it's so annoying! I am on vers 1.80 and rekordbox 3 (still running original OSX). I had an aero before and this NEVER happened. I know it's the software. I have the best grids set correctly. Goes out of sync even with the sync button on. I have the master tempo on as well. I have read lots of complaints about this so I know I'm not the only one. Is pioneer going to ever address this issue?

Miguel

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Hi guys,

I've been having the exact same issues since I got the XDJ in February. I've asked on here a few times but no help that solved it. I figured out a work around but it's time consuming. It seems to me it's either an XDJ-RX fault or a fault in the transfer from Rekordbox to the USB. Have a look at my thread I've just started and the link within it for my work around:

https://forums.pioneerdj.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/207780103-Rekordbox-transfer-to-USB-problem-

Martin Cape 1 vote
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Still no solution for our bug's??? There 4 mounth's when this post was created and still no solution??? No firmware update??? I think the problem is in the firmware and not in the rekordbox software.

Dj Hairless 1 vote
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Good Morning. See if you can help me. I'm with the same problem my beat grid is sliding relative to the other Deck even with Quantize and Sync on. Without them, the situation worsens. I've tried to do everything I could. I updated Firmware 2.20 and I use Rekordbox 4.2.5 and the problem persists. I have analyzed the songs in Rekordbox in every way possible. Normal mode, dynamic mode, etc. Nothing works. Can someone tell me how and when to solve the BUG ??? Thanks in advance for your help and attention.

Rodrigo Silva 1 vote
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@Pulse.
Good Morning. See if you can help me. I'm with the same problem my beat grid is sliding relative to the other Deck even with Quantize and Sync on. Without them, the situation worsens. I've tried to do everything I could. I updated Firmware 2.20 and I use Rekordbox 4.2.5 and the problem persists. I have analyzed the songs in Rekordbox in every way possible. Normal mode, dynamic mode, etc. Nothing works. Can someone tell me how and when to solve the BUG ??? Thanks in advance for your help and attention.

Rodrigo Silva 1 vote
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@Rodrigo

Connect your xdj via link mode (ethernet cable) with your pc and try it again. I had the same issue like you but in link mode everything is fine. When it also "solve" your problem, it has to be a problem with the transfer from rekordbox to usb or a firmware issue wich has to be solved by Pioneer engineers.

Megantic 2 votes
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I've been having this issue since I bought it 11 months ago. Every time I add tracks to my collection, I have to go through the work around I've mentioned above and in numerous posts.

This is clearly an issue for the engineers. It's either rekordbox to USB transfer issue, or an issue with the xdj reading the USB waveforms.

I added 5 tracks the other day, 3 had to be redone using my method mentioned. It's a pain in the arse!!

Martin Cape 1 vote
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I have never tried link mode as I would never use them like that. Basically, something is being lost between transferring to USB and being read on the xdj.

I treat every track the same, import, set cues, add the playlists, transfer to USB then load into the xdj. But only some of the tracks, maybe about 40%, end up with the sync function working on the deck.

Martin Cape 1 vote
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It would be interesting if you try it once in link mode. When everything works fine with it, it would be another proof that it has to be a USB problem

Megantic 1 vote
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I'll try it at some point. At the min I've gone through the work around with most of my tracks so they are all spot on now. I'll also try to take some videos the next time I add tracks.

After adding to the library, using the 2 deck option, adding a track to each and using sync works flawlessly. I tested some tracks like that once. But, then transferring to USB, and playing on the xdj, sync didn't work. The beat grids were off, in time, but not in sync. Yet they worked perfectly within the software.

It's like transferring to USB is affecting the beat grids on some tracks, for what reason I do not know.

Martin Cape 1 vote
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@Magantic @Martin Cape @Pulse Even with the network cable and the Active Link (Rekordbox button) the hit grid is not aligned. It continues to slide / misalign itself even with active SYNC or not. Remembering again that all the songs were analyzed in NORMAL mode and several other tests were done. The problem persists. Using the Rekordbox via the USB cable, NETWORK cable or pendrive. Firmware 2.20 and Rekordbox 4.2.5. Thank you very much in advance.

Rodrigo Silva 1 vote
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Videos would be a huge help, as I'm yet to encounter this issue in hundreds of hours of use on the RX ... and my excuse is not that I'm magical or an "RX Whisperer."

Pulse 0 votes
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Good Morning. Follow the video link of the beatgrid problem (BPM) using the pendrive without SYNC. Parsed by rekordbox in normal mode. I have to spend the whole time fixing the time through the JOG. Two friends of mine bought XDJ-RX and they all have the same problem. Or it's Firmware or Rekordbox problem.

1) Video - beatgrid BPM failure through the pendrive.

https://youtu.be/jIjlTzi7Cvw
https://youtu.be/8lpBY0hpxSA

2) Video - Beatgrid BPM fails through active pendrive and SYNC. The problem remains. Quantize active or not. I've done several tests. The problem persists. All the songs in CBR.
https://youtu.be/IfdDa9MPXKo

3) Video - Problem in beatgrid (BPM) using in MIDI mode and Rekordbox Dj. The problem persists even showing on the notebook screen. With or without SYNC. With or without MASTER TIME. With or without QUANTIZE. All the songs analyzed in normal mode and already tested in dynamic mode. The problem persists. When I use TRAKTOR PRO and XDJ-RX in MIDI mode, it works normally.

https://youtu.be/g8OJC-xjFY8

4) Video - beatgrid problem (BPM) using LINK Rekordbox via Network cable. The problem persists in all possible tests. I even formatted the pendrive and analyzed all the songs again in dynamic and normal mode. I bought a new pendrive. The problem persists. Please, I do not know what else to do. I already had an XDJ-R1 and I never had this problem. I play with the same USB flash drives in 2000NXS and I have no problems. I think it's a firmware problem.

https://youtu.be/dvNmLpjbywI

Anyway, I thank you

Rodrigo Silva 1 vote
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@Pulse Good Morning. Follow the video link of the beatgrid problem (BPM) using the pendrive without SYNC. Parsed by rekordbox in normal mode. I have to spend the whole time fixing the time through the JOG. Two friends of mine bought XDJ-RX and they all have the same problem. Or it's Firmware or Rekordbox problem.
1) Video - beatgrid BPM failure through the pendrive.
https://youtu.be/jIjlTzi7Cvw
https://youtu.be/8lpBY0hpxSA
2) Video - Beatgrid BPM fails through active pendrive and SYNC. The problem remains. Quantize active or not. I've done several tests. The problem persists. All the songs in CBR.
https://youtu.be/IfdDa9MPXKo
3) Video - Problem in beatgrid (BPM) using in MIDI mode and Rekordbox Dj. The problem persists even showing on the notebook screen. With or without SYNC. With or without MASTER TIME. With or without QUANTIZE. All the songs analyzed in normal mode and already tested in dynamic mode. The problem persists. When I use TRAKTOR PRO and XDJ-RX in MIDI mode, it works normally.
https://youtu.be/g8OJC-xjFY8
4) Video - beatgrid problem (BPM) using LINK Rekordbox via Network cable. The problem persists in all possible tests. I even formatted the pendrive and analyzed all the songs again in dynamic and normal mode. I bought a new pendrive. The problem persists. Please, I do not know what else to do. I already had an XDJ-R1 and I never had this problem. I play with the same USB flash drives in 2000NXS and I have no problems. I think it's a firmware problem.
https://youtu.be/dvNmLpjbywI
Anyway, I thank you

Rodrigo Silva 1 vote
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@Rodrigo > Thanks for the videos, that will certainly help. I noticed at 44s of the first video there is something odd that happens to the track on deck 2; it was in time, then all of a sudden, slides backwards as if the pitch were changed (or pitch-bend enacted).

The second video doesn't show much, so it's difficult to use that for any kind of analysis.

The third video is fine - the wiggle you see between tracks is simply the refresh on the screen; if you let them play, you'd notice they stay in sync.

The fourth video doesn't show when you are pitch bending, and they're not sync-locked (only master is enabled), so it's hard to tell what's happening / when.

And the fifth video, much like the first, shows a speed change around 50s mark, but I can't see your other hand holding the camera, so I'm not sure if you touched the jog or not, but either way, deck 2 is not sync'd.

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@Pulse Good evening. What can be done to solve this synchronization problem? Will any new firmware be released to solve this problem? From what I'm researching on the internet, many people have the same problem. Thank you very much in advance.

Rodrigo Silva 1 vote
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@Pulse Any solution for the same problem everyone at the forum? Any firmware or fix available or date to leave? Thanks for listening.

Rodrigo Silva 1 vote
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reading through these forums does not fill me with hope... i see many people with the same problems related to bpm and beatgrids for months and months and no solutions have been found. i spent $1500 on this xdj-rx and im appalled by the fact that using my used denon dnmc-6000 with traktor was so much more professional an experience. my mixes were flawless, and i do not use sync. now, with a controller more than 2x the price, i sound like i just started beatmatching... and i actually saw "well just use sync" as a suggestion from pulse. seriously? i just need to know if it will be addressed in the future because im in this to DJ, not to screw around with a company who doesnt care about its customers past the initial sale.

Arthur Legere 0 votes
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@Pulse Good Morning. No solution to this GRID problem ?? There are thousands of people with this problem. What to do with my XDJ-RX? Throw her in the trash? Frustrating and disappointing. I've been a DJ for 28 years and I've never had problems with AERO and R1. What's the solution, Pioneer engineers ???? If there is no solution, I would not recommend anyone else !! I recommended to my two friends and I am ashamed of the purchase statement !!!! We need a solution, for God's sake !!!! Help!!

Rodrigo Silva 1 vote
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This bug is also on the xdj 1000. And no, it isn't thebeatgrids I'm working without sync.

Tobias Bauer 1 vote
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Having the same problem with beat matching ,even riding the pitch dose not help and when you hit the pause on the play button it keeps repeating like a stuck cd.I thought buying Pioneer was buying quality.

Peter Jepps 1 vote
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Is the speed bug regarding the Xdj Series still under investigation?

Tobias Bauer 1 vote
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@Tobias Bauer 

The problem persists. Nothing has been fixed and we have no return.
I practically set aside my XDJ for this problem. I'm thinking of getting rid of it. Unfortunate.
Rodrigo Silva 1 vote
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yo any movement on this? aggravating as hell, i wish i could return this $1500 piece of crap

Arthur Legere 0 votes
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hey guys, i got the same problem.

i tried so many things, so i figgured out that it´s maybe an USB-stick problem. certainly i am not sure, it also can be an imagination that its better (not fixed!!!) with the 64gb CORSAIR USB STICK instead of the 16 gb one.

 

Julian Kaltschmitt 0 votes
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it is not the USB variants causing this it is the Hardware & Firmware causing this.

This happens in the same manner using Midi mode on Virtual DJ software also.
It would take Pioneer engineers less than 15 mins to see/reporduce the issue but it's been 2 years without even budging.

It started 100% noticibly after firmware 1.8

Would be nice if Pioneer could recode fw 1.8 and rename it to 2.218 so we could test.

Its been almost 2 years and i cannot enjoy this 2000$ device. My friends XDJRX2 does not have this issue at all, or the CDJ 2K's ive used.

Aaron Johnson 0 votes
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@Aaron > "This happens in the same manner using Midi mode on Virtual DJ software also."

That would isolate the issue 100% to Virtual DJ with nothing to do with the RX itself.

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I'm having the same problem with my xdj 700's. My theory is that it doesn't seem as much to be that the songs drift. It's more like the tempo fluctuates up and down leaving the songs somewhat in sync but having the kicks, snares and hats sometimes be in front of the other song and sometimes behind. It's so subtle you can't pinpoint it easily but it's definitely there and it really throws you off when mixing. It causes you to adjust and turn the tunes out of sync yourself because the beats sometimes aren't aligned. It feels like the internal clock isn't able to keep a constant pace. I've had the same issues when playing a live set on nxs 2's recently. I've owned three cdj 800 mk2's and played on cdj 2000's, 2000 nxs's, 850's,  900's and 1000's and never had problems with songs going out of sync. yet on the new gear it seems to be a problem. It's really taken the enjoyment out of mixing with my xdj 700's and until pioneer acknowledge's the problem I'm stuck with € 2100 of sub par gear. Would've much rather gotten 2nd hand 2000's but I can't return them to the store anymore.

Bart Schipper 0 votes
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